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So, I saw either on here or another Goldwing site that there’s a panel mount SAE connection that you can use to trickle charge with. I’m wanting to know if it’s safe to use that same port with an adapter to be able to jump start with. Anyone better with electrical connections that can chime in? Would be much appreciated. Looks like the wiring from the battery to the socket would be 18 AWG. The jump pack uses what seems to be 10 AWG. I imagine the 18 AWG could handle a couple jumps no?
 
No. Jump starting needs to be connected directly to the battery terminals. Any panel mounted connection will be fuse protected to prevent jump starting which would fry the 18 AWG wiring.
 
Starting current far exceeds the current carrying capacity of 18ga wire. Plus, if the sae plug is properly installed, it will be a fused circuit of no more than 15 amps, which again is waaay below the starting current.
 
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So I seem to have found a 10 gauge SAE panel mount. I can put in a higher fuse as well. I also found a 10 gauge wire SAE to EC5 adapter. It looks to me like the jump packs come with an EC5 and 10 gauge wire as standard. Any reason that set up shouldn’t work? Here’s the pieces I’m looking at.

Panel Mount
Adapter
Jump Pack

Would appreciate some input on if this little rig up should work or not.
 
So I seem to have found a 10 gauge SAE panel mount. I can put in a higher fuse as well. I also found a 10 gauge wire SAE to EC5 adapter. It looks to me like the jump packs come with an EC5 and 10 gauge wire as standard. Any reason that set up shouldn’t work? Here’s the pieces I’m looking at.

Panel Mount
Adapter
Jump Pack

Would appreciate some input on if this little rig up should work or not.
I have the Scosche 300 with the Scosche Quick Connect Kit

The panel mount will work for the electrical power involved- assuming you remove the fuse - but the the panel jack is going to be very large, unlike the ones you see with the 18AWG wires.

The igreely adapter wont work because the connector is a different shape and size than the Scosche jump pack connector .

Any reason you dont want to use the Scoshe Quick Connect Kit? The Kit comes with both a Scoshe to SAE adapter and the cable to the battery. The connector tucks in the cubby on the side panel. No one knows it is there. I leave the Scosche to SAE adapter plugged into my trickle charger so I don't have to mess with it. I do take it with me on the multiday road trips.

Quick Connect Kit
Kit 300 and Quick Connect
 
Discussion starter · #6 ·
I have the Scosche 300 with the Scosche Quick Connect Kit

The panel mount will work would work but the the panel jack is going to be very large, unlike the ones you see with the 18AWG wires.

The igreely adapter wont work because the connector is a different shape and size than the Scosche jump pack connector .

Any reason you dont want to use the Scoshe Quick Connect Kit? The Kit comes with both a Scoshe to SAE adapter and the cable to the battery. The connector tucks in the cubby on the side panel. No one knows it is there. I leave the Scosche to SAE adapter plugged into my trickle charger so I don't have to mess with it. I do take it with me on the multiday road trips.

Quick Connect Kit
Kit 300 and Quick Connect
I’m mainly wanting to be able to have a port to plug into for multi use things like heated gear or whatever if I want it. Then it’d be nice to use that same port to jump the battery if needed and trickle charge.

I’m 90% sure it’s the same jack on that adapter as the Scoshe has. Looks like that’s the industry standard as it looks the same as the Battery Tender brand of battery packs too.
 
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I’m 90% sure it’s the same jack on that adapter as the Scoshe has. Looks like that’s the industry standard as it looks the same as the Battery Tender brand of battery packs too.
Two pin SAE connector is an industry standard. The connector on the other side, the two pin EC5 and the three pin Scosche, are not industry standard because there isn't a widely recognized standard. Different jump packs use different connector types.

Scosche does not use the EC5.
The EC5 has one square post. The Scosche posts are all round so the EC5 won't plug in into the jump pack.

Scosche connector had three posts, EC5 has two posts. Granted, the small post on the Scosche may not come into play, but it might also be a safety check for the jump pack. Don't know.

Good luck.
 
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Many jumper packs have a accessory wiring harness that attaches to the battery and will plug into the jumper pack...then you simply pull out the plug and plug it into the jumper pack if ever needed without the need to remove anything from the bike to get at the battery.
 
I installed this pigtail on my battery. NOCO - Boost Eyelet Cable w/X-Connect Adapter - GBC007. Upgraded pigtail fuse to 15A per Noco Tech support suggestion. Bought their GB50 jump starter (GBX45 not released yet when i bought, or would have gotten that for USB-C connection) and Genuis2 ~ 2-amp charger. FYI - Called Yuasa and they state don't use more than 2A charger. When I need to jump start or charge, I just plug in. This setup has saved me on-road as I have mental challenges turning bike all the way off. I've started my neighbors dead battery V8 suburban with the GB50. It's a beast. The 20 / 40 / 45 will start your bike no issues. Pigtail highlights per their web below:
  • Charger adapter included for quick and easy transitions between your Boost jump starter and Genius charger.
  • Made from durable, heat stabilized 8AWG silicone wire that maintains its flexibility in cold weather environments.
  • Compatible with Boost UltraSafe Lithium Jump Starter models: GB20, GB40, GB50, and GBX45.
  • Attach the adapter for compatibility with Genius Charger models: GENIUS1, GENIUS2....
 
Discussion starter · #10 ·
So, I got the battery tender brand unit and it uses the EC5 connector. I’ve got the panel mount SAE to ring terminal 10 gauge wire connector to the battery and I’ve got an SAE to EC5 stubby connector. I believe I’ll be able to use this set up as a good jump pack solution. I am looking at the Micro Start XP-3 due to its compactness. In talking to the manufacturer, I should be able to use their adapter to ring terminal and splice in an SAE adapter and use it that way too. Waiting for that to come in to make my final decision.
 
What I want: minimum 10AWG, big fuse, SAE connector and ring terminals.
Uggh. I've spent a good deal of time researching all this stuff and looking at a zillion set ups with various connector plugs and wire sizes and fuse sizes and prices. My jump pack comes with a SAE connector: same plug that I use for my battery tender and my air pump. I want at least a 10 gauge suitable for jump starting the bike. So I did some comparing based on advice given here.

Scosche quick connect kit: starts off with 10 gauge wire, but the SAE adapter appears to be a smaller gauge. It's likely intended for trickle charging. Looking at the pictures on their website reveals this. It won't work for me.

Noco: really nice 8 gauge wire, but no SAE adapter: this won't work.

So I found this a couple on Amazon CLICKY HERE or CLICKY HERE 2. Seems like they're all at least 2 feet long, but I guess I can coil it up. Both check all my boxes:
-SAE plug.
-10 gauge wire
-ring terminals on one end
-an inline fuse w/several different size fuzes

I think these are what the OP might be looking for as well.

EDIT: I JUST ORDERED THE ONE FROM THE SECOND LINK ABOVE. SHOULD KNOW SOON HOW I LIKE IT.
 
Discussion starter · #14 ·
So I think I have what I want but I'm not sure which pack to choose. Battery tender is 600amp peak and the micro start is 400amp peak. Both would work for my application and they're both about the same size and weight. Battery Tender is 6000mah and micro start is 8000mah. Any opinions on which to stick with?
 
So I think I have what I want but I'm not sure which pack to choose. Battery tender is 600amp peak and the micro start is 400amp peak. Both would work for my application and they're both about the same size and weight. Battery Tender is 6000mah and micro start is 8000mah. Any opinions on which to stick with?
Either would work well for the Goldwing. If you also have a larger engine you might want to start, that might lean you toward the larger capacity. If not, I would look at the reviews for both to see if there are differences in features and satisfaction. Otherwise, get the cheaper one.
 
Discussion starter · #16 ·
Either would work well for the Goldwing. If you also have a larger engine you might want to start, that might lean you toward the larger capacity. If not, I would look at the reviews for both to see if there are differences in features and satisfaction. Otherwise, get the cheaper one.
How many peak amps should the Goldwing need? I'm thinking the micro start is gonna be better quality. Idk.
 
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