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#21 ·
MiWinger51 said:
I am in the process of negotiating a deal on a 2019 airbag dct Goldwing Tour. The mileage on the bike is extremely low. It is still covered under the original warranty until July of 2023. I can purchase an extended warranty from Honda for 5 yrs at $710.00. That will cover everything that is in the original 3 yr. factory warranty. My other option is a warranty offered by an independent company that covers everything on the bike including all electrical items ( Radio, navigation, etc.) and road service. The cost of that warranty is $1500 for five years. The question is, have owners of the 2018 had issues that would warrant the extra cost? Your thoughts are appreciated.
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I would be concerned about a third party warranty company unless I have spoken personally with several people that have bought that SPECIFIC warranty and USED IT. There have been several threads about this warranty issue over the years. There have also been several "translations" of the Honda Warranty about the Audio and Navigation units as to coverage of same under warranty.

To get a definitive answer, I would suggest you call Honda and ask for the Warranty Coverage Unit and ask them specifically if your "Infotainment System" ( sorry for the Harley name reference ) is covered under warranty, in case it or part of it quits working. Then you will have your "official " answer. In the past I have read the parts of the Warranty that were posted here and I can tell you it leads to many questions about the interpretation of what an "AUDIO" and "NAVIGATION" system is. s it the one that comes with the Bike, or does it refer to Navigation equipment added, like a Garmin for instance. As for AUDIO, does that mean a separate unit, or the upgraded speakers with the OEM system?
Furthermore, my question is WHY the AUDIO and NAVIGATION units are worded separately in the Warranty....isn't Audio AND Navigation in ONE HEAD UNIT on the Bike?
 
#22 ·
flyboy1800 said:
Well, here is my 2 cents.
I bought the extended warranty (not the Honda warranty) on my 2005 and had the engine removed twice. (yes 2 times). Plus they replaced the steering bearings with All Balls tapered bearings when I complained about them. For the $600 I paid for it, it saved me thousands of dollars. Being said, I also bought the extended warranty on my 2018 Tour DCT. Why? Because all of the electronics on that bike were new and no one knew what would happen to them in a few years down the road.
The Honda extended warranty, "we are told" covers everything the factory warranty covers. That isn't what it says in the warranty!
One thing that Honda does not cover is gaskets and seals. They call them "Expendable Maintenance Items". They can cover them if a repair of the engine is made, but if a gasket or seal is leaking by itself, they may not cover it. You should check with your dealer and read what the warranty covers, it is all in black and white.
I also found that the Honda extended warranty says it does not cover audio and Navigation equipment, people are quick to argue the point.
All I can say is that is what is written in black and white, and that means I could be stuck paying for that myself if Honda was not willing to cover it. Do I want to take that chance?
I do know someone with a Goldwing that has had their navigation screen replaced under the extended warranty, I believe twice. The 2017's have had some failures of those screens. I don't know if they bought the Honda one or not.
I went with Aegis Warranty that is what my Honda dealer sells and they cover these things in their warranty.
Warranty is only insurance. If you feel like you don't need it then you shouldn't get it. Some think it is a waste of money. $700.00 is not a bad price for a Honda warranty. One trip to the shop for a problem could cost you that easily these days. Good Luck.
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They sell the non Honda warranty because there is more money to be made by the dealership.
 
#23 ·
Destindoc said:
Let’s resume the discussion… I highly recommend that you do not buy the extended warranty. I did a survey here about a year ago which showed that the majority of people who bought the extended warranty never used it. Those who did use it, including me, the repair cost less than the extended warranty, therefore money lost. Very few got their money’s worth out of the warranty.

This is a very well-built motorcycle. The probability of you needing expensive work done on it within the extended warranty time is extremely low. How long will you keep the bike? The original owner did not keep it very long. How do you know that you will?

I speak from experience owning two Goldwings, and what many here have experienced. My wife’s 2006 Goldwing has never needed any repair work. My bike, a 2008, required front wheel bearings replaced, which cost less than what the extended warranty cost me.

If you decide to buy one, just realize that it is highly unlikely that you will use it.
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Wow. I agree with every single thing you said. EVERY single thing. The post started on not about whether or not to get an EW. It was about from WHERE to get it from. That explains my answer.

An extended warranty is nothing but more insurance. Period. I got it. I also have fire insurance on my house. The odds of my house burning down are next to zero. It's insurance/peace of mind. That's all. Hopefully, I'll never have to use either the Honda warranty or, God forbid, the fire insurance.

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#24 ·
Get the Honda warranty, just used mine on my 18 as the trunk latch was acting up and needed a slight adjustment. Didn't cost me a dime.

I bought my 08 Wing that had the Honda warranty which stays with the bike not the owner ( a nice selling feature for a used bike) and just weeks before it was out of warranty the shock preload stopped working. Honda replaced it at no charge, that would have costed cost me 1,500.00 This was in 14 so today that would have be hundreds more today.

At today's labor rates it wouldn't take much to make up the 710 a good price BTW..

Buy it and be happy, if you never use it be even happier as it's never going to get any cheaper to have your bike repaired.
 
#25 ·
I have a 2018 and other than warranty replacing my battery I haven’t had any issues. I purchased the 5 year HPP from Blue Ridge Powersports ($710.00) on 11-6-2022 which was when my OEM warranty expired. I may or may not ever use it but to me it is worth it. I also like that I can use it at any Honda dealer if I have anything happen when traveling on long trips.
 
#26 · (Edited)
MiWinger51 said:
From the brochure "HondaCare Coverage offers the same features and benefits as your original new vehicle warranty." Engine, Drive system, Fuel system, Brake system, Electrical and Chassis. Excludes "Tires, Batteries, Audio and Navigation Equipment and Accessories, and Regular Required and Expendable using only new genuine Honda Parts;
That sounds like everything except the Audio and Navigation system, am I wrong?
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There have been posts on the 2018 forum about the OEM seat being replaced under the 3 year warranty. You may say it doesn't matter because you have an aftermarket seat, and that is fine. And, as you noted, the audio and nav are excluded under the extended. That may or may not be the case, as evidenced by other posts in this thread.

My point is, there are things excluded under the ext warranty that are NOT excluded under the 3 year warranty (OEM battery was another item some had replaced under the 3 year warranty). Your initial post claimed it was the same coverage, and it is not. It is close, but not the same. As long as you know it, that is all that matters.
 
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#28 ·
I bought a used bike that came with an aftermarket extended warranty that the dealer sold. The bike still had the original wty but had this as a rider and the cost was 2400 on the premium product. Having nothing to do one day I read the contract and reading the coverage its wording did not cover many things but what really caught me in the wording was the maintenance requirements.
 
#29 ·
I debated about it. I had one on my VTX and probly used 25% of it. I decided to get it for my 2019 Tour due to the complexity of the machine and me aging. I have no problem doing basic maintenance, but the heavy stuff may be beyond my desire. I negotiated with my local dealer. He's a nice guy with a small dealership. I told him I would get it from him if he gave me a good price. I paid more than some, but supported a small business. I consider that money well spent.
 
#30 ·
Dougbug said:
Get the Honda warranty, just used mine on my 18 as the trunk latch was acting up and needed a slight adjustment. Didn't cost me a dime....
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This is where we disagree. It did cost you a dime... you simply paid for the repair in advance with the money you gave them for the warranty. And paying for this adjustment would had cost less than the warranty cost. I see the shock repair as you simply paid for half of the repair up front. You did get ahead on the deal. About 2% of those I surveyed were in this category.

One cannot compare this to having homeowners insurance. You have that to cover tens of thousands, if not hundred of thousands of dollars of damage... nothing compared to what you might spend on a bike repair. You compare paying $700 to cover a potential $1500 bike repair as a good deal. That's like saying paying $200,000 in insurance to cover your $400,000 house is a good deal. I don't think any of us would consider that a good deal.

Though most of us would not repair some things on the bike if they broke, if you don't have $1500 to do a repair on this bike, you don't need the bike. I know, "Doc, most of us don't have $1500 to throw around..." but you are suggesting you do have $700 to throw away on insurance you hope you never need, and others should do the same.

Realize, I am not saying people should not buy the EW. People should be aware that they are paying a lot for something they are very unlikely to use. Honda never pays for a repair under the EW program... those that bought the EW pay for the repair. Your fellow EW holders pay for your repair. Honda likely spends 2% of the money collected to pay for warranty repairs... and pockets the rest. They know Goldwing owners... they know suckers when they see one.

I know... I was one of them. :p
 
#31 ·
Destindoc said:
This is where we disagree. It did cost you a dime... you simply paid for the repair in advance with the money you gave them for the warranty. And paying for this adjustment would had cost less than the warranty cost. I see the shock repair as you simply paid for half of the repair up front. You did get ahead on the deal. About 2% of those I surveyed were in this category.

One cannot compare this to having homeowners insurance. You have that to cover tens of thousands, if not hundred of thousands of dollars of damage... nothing compared to what you might spend on a bike repair. You compare paying $700 to cover a potential $1500 bike repair as a good deal. That's like saying paying $200,000 in insurance to cover your $400,000 house is a good deal. I don't think any of us would consider that a good deal.

Though most of us would not repair some things on the bike if they broke, if you don't have $1500 to do a repair on this bike, you don't need the bike. I know, "Doc, most of us don't have $1500 to throw around..." but you are suggesting you do have $700 to throw away on insurance you hope you never need, and others should do the same.

Realize, I am not saying people should not buy the EW. People should be aware that they are paying a lot for something they are very unlikely to use. Honda never pays for a repair under the EW program... those that bought the EW pay for the repair. Your fellow EW holders pay for your repair. Honda likely spends 2% of the money collected to pay for warranty repairs... and pockets the rest. They know Goldwing owners... they know suckers when they see one.

I know... I was one of them. :p
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Please point me to the article that states only 2% of Honda EW money is used on repairs? Or any article that supports your supposed "facts" in your highlighted paragraph.

Opinions on this forum are great........but when you start throwing out numbers that are based on absolutely nothing just for argument, it's a whole new low IMHO. :cautious:
 
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Brian_Fenner said:
Please point me to the article that states only 2% of Honda EW money is used on repairs? Or any article that supports your supposed "facts" in your highlighted paragraph.

Opinions on this forum are great........but when you start throwing out numbers that are based on absolutely nothing just for argument, it's a whole new low IMHO. :cautious:
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Never stated they were facts... Honda would not release such information. I said likely... my opinion. Never said otherwise, Brian. ;)
 
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Destindoc said:
Never stated they were facts... Honda would not release such information. I said likely... my opinion. Never said otherwise, Brian. ;)
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Then why state numbers at all?.........you have ZERO idea and pulling numbers out of your arse for sake of making a point in a discussion.
So how is it "likely" 2%?
Based on what?

Get my point? It's just wrong to throw out numbers and present them like they are some resemblance of fact, when you have absolutely NO idea........
Over and out..... ;)
 
#37 ·
Wow, the OP asks a simple question: Did any ’18+ Wing owners have any problems that justify buying an extended warranty? and out of 35 responses, only 3 people (Posts #4, #25 and #26) actually answered his question.

As for my ‘19 DCT Tour owned since new in June 2019 (now with ~ 36,000 km), I had one problem (electric windscreen motor) which was replaced in year 2 under Honda Canada’s standard 3 year warranty. For me, the ‘18+ Wing has proven reliable and does not justify buying an extended warranty.

To add fuel to the divisive debate, “Extended Warranty: yea or nay?”,
  • Extended warranties buy peace of mind. Nothing more, nothing less
  • Extended warranty companies, including Honda, are in the business of making money. They sell to you knowing full well customer claims will be less than the premium they collect. As in gambling, an individual might “win”, but overall, you can’t beat the house
  • Deciding on whether the cost of peace of mind depends on the product and its historical failure or problem rate.
  • BMW, Ducati, Aprilia, Land Rover, Jaguar, Stellantis/Dodge/Jeep? Considering an extended warranty is probably a good idea.
  • Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Toyota, Honda automobiles? Buying an extended warranty is likely just contributing to corporate executives’ kids’ college funds.
Tim
 
#38 ·
So far the only thing that has gone wrong with my 2018 has been the HSA light started flashing.... 2 different times. Both times the clutch switch was replaced under the factory 3 year warranty...clutch switch is like 25 dollars.
I bought the Honda extended warranty early on because being this model was new...new engine, IGS, led headlight...I felt better having 8 years of unlimited mileage warranty, but this model has proved to be very reliable over the last 5 years. If I bought a new 2023, I wouldn't buy the extended warranty again...especially since the extended warranty doesn't cover the audio and navi unit.
 
#39 ·
Slightly off topic . . . this thread really answers a question I had been contemplating: Now that the current 6th Generation Honda Gold Wing is now in its 5th year of production, have there been any common problems?

We all know the conventional wisdom: Never buy a first year car (or motorcycle.)

From this thread, it appears Honda not only designed and engineered the 18+ Wings superbly, they also maintained a high level of quality control in their manufacturing of the motorcycle. The responses here certainly give the impression the Wing is arguably one of the most reliable premium luxury tourers available.

It’s actually an impressive feat for what was in 2018 an all-new motorcycle and is today essentially unchanged mechanically.

Tim
 
#40 ·
T-88 said:
Wow, the OP asks a simple question: Did any ’18+ Wing owners have any problems that justify buying an extended warranty? and out of 35 responses, only 3 people (Posts #4, #25 and #26) actually answered his question.

As for my ‘19 DCT Tour owned since new in June 2019 (now with ~ 36,000 km), I had one problem (electric windscreen motor) which was replaced in year 2 under Honda Canada’s standard 3 year warranty. For me, the ‘18+ Wing has proven reliable and does not justify buying an extended warranty.

To add fuel to the divisive debate, “Extended Warranty: yea or nay?”,
  • Extended warranties buy peace of mind. Nothing more, nothing less
  • Extended warranty companies, including Honda, are in the business of making money. They sell to you knowing full well customer claims will be less than the premium they collect. As in gambling, an individual might “win”, but overall, you can’t beat the house
  • Deciding on whether the cost of peace of mind depends on the product and its historical failure or problem rate.
  • BMW, Ducati, Aprilia, Land Rover, Jaguar, Stellantis/Dodge/Jeep? Considering an extended warranty is probably a good idea.
  • Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Toyota, Honda automobiles? Buying an extended warranty is likely just contributing to corporate executives’ kids’ college funds.
Tim
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This is it. Final word. " ..........divisive debate ... ?"

WTHeck are you talking about ?? No debate. No 'divisiveness.' WTHeck !!! Just a bunch of guys/motor geeks mentioning the merits or not of getting a warranty.

One wants one....great. One doesn't want one ..........also great.
 
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