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This is informational. I'll tell ya what I did, and you can make up your own mind. I started out a couple of months ago changing oil using Royal Purple 10W40, new filter. Before the run I checked tire pressures. I run a HanKook tire on the back (dark-side) at 34psi, and a Metzler front at 40psi. One up and, here in Tennessee, we still can get 100% gas, no corn. :excited:
Anyway the wife, whats her name :shrug:, and I went for a ride thru the mountains. Me on the 'wing, and her on the spyder. Started down Tn-66 to 441, into and over the mountains, down to Cherokee and after a stop in the casino, I had to say good by to some of my money :tongue:, we proceeded up to the Dragon. After a couple of "I hate you" and "I ain't talkin' to you for 2 weeks", we went thru the Dragon. Oh, did I mention what's her name has only been driving a motorcycle for 3 months? (2011 Spyder RS). Like a trooper she earned her Dragon 'T' shirt. We continued up 129 to the foot hill parkway over to 321 back into Sevierville. Up 66 to home. Pulled into the drive way. 172 miles on the clock. Average speed 45 miles per hour. Can't tell the MPG cause I fill my own tank from gas cans.

One more thing. About the Royal Purple. It is one of the best, although expensive, oils I have used. The 'wing' has NEVER been so quiet. The valve tick I heard while using 'crap gas' went away. All I hear now is the "Goldwing Whine" and the tires slapping the road. There is NO transmission clunk shifting into 1st or up/down shifting. And at highway speeds, 55 to 70 the engine seems to run stronger. I would recommend trying at least one oil change using this oil. No I ain't paid to say this.
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I'm glad your bike is giving you that much enjoyment with the new oil, and I don't want this to be taken as combative. But I think that as time goes by, you are going to realize that your elation was a bit premature.

Fuel mileage has to be calculated over time, with full tanks of fuel. It is just too easy to introduce huge errors with the method you used. And the type of riding you do on that tank plays a big part in it. I got 308 miles out of 6.1 gallons once, which is 50mpg, yet my normal mileage is 40-44, and as low as 36mpg in the spring and fall. When you ride at a fairly constant speed without stopping very often, like you did riding all those back roads, you inflate the mileage beyond the norm.

172 miles on a half a tank would be about 57mpg, 30% higher than the 40mpg that the average Wing rider reports, and 35% higher than Honda's advertised mpg of 37. If simply changing to Royal Purple could make that kind of difference, it would be a breakthrough in science, and the EPA would require that it be used in all vehicles. In reality, even the most fuel efficient oil out there only provides about a .2 to .3 mpg difference in mileage.

Your mood also plays a huge part in your perception. I have had times when my bike felt like it was riding on air, with everything me peaceful and quiet. And yet other times my bike felt like I was riding on a rock in an old jalopy, even when riding the same roads. Those periods of feeling everything is right in the world, (and with your bike) don't happen nearly often enough.

I don't doubt the quality of Royal Purple. It might be a great oil. And I for one appreciate you sharing the info with us. But there is no such thing as a magic elixir. If you have found something you like, you should stick with it. Just keep in mind that Royal Purple has been around for quite some time. If it were really that great as what you have perceived, word would have spread quickly. Everyone would know about it, and everyone would be using it.

It wasn't the oil. It was you. You were in the zone and just had a great day of riding.
 

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when I was on trip last year in Colorado in altitudes over 7500ft I was getting 50 MPG, once I came down to to about 2000 ft my mileage went back to normal, about 42 mpg, same oil, same rider, the only difference was the altitude.
 

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Tell us more about whats her name and the Spyder. Who cares about the oil? LOL :thumbup:
And after calling her "what's her name" I'll just bet he saves lots of money on the air conditioning bill at home. You know it's gonna be very chilly at night even w/o the a/c running. Seems like a great way to build up the "safety chrome" account.
 
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when I was on trip last year in Colorado in altitudes over 7500ft I was getting 50 MPG, once I came down to to about 2000 ft my mileage went back to normal, about 42 mpg, same oil, same rider, the only difference was the altitude.

:thumbup: Yep standard oil no changes and I would say my experience is about the same. 42-44 on the flats and 50+ in the hills.
34psi front tire 26psi rear. (no sand included)
 

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LarryM....

I think that as time goes by, you are going to realize that your elation was a bit premature.

Fuel mileage has to be calculated over time, with full tanks of fuel. It is just too easy to introduce huge errors with the method you used. You inflate the mileage beyond the norm.

172 miles on a half a tank would be about 57mpg

It wasn't the oil. It was you. You were in the zone and just had a great day of riding.[/QUOTE]

Fuel mileage has to be calculated over time, with full tanks of fuel. It is just too easy to introduce huge errors with the method you used.

As I said this was informational. 172 miles on a half a tank would be about 57mpg If you check the specs on a Honda Goldwing, you will find the fuel tank is 6.6 gallons. So 172 miles devided by 3.3 gallons comes out to be 52.12 mpg. I also said that I couldn't tell the MPG because I fill the tanks with a gas can. If the gauge was digital I could be more specific. But since it's electro-mechanical..... This isn't the first time to the dance. I have anticipated a response as of yours so to add on. This is the second change of oil I've done, PLUS I only used 100% gas, no ethanol. Put close to 7000 miles on, did two up, trailer pulling trips to Pittsburgh, Morehead City, and along the skyline drive back home, plus a lot of local driving. 508 miles to Pittsburgh 14 gallons of gas, again I fill up using a gas can that had the pure gas. That came out to 36mpg. I40, I81, I77, US-19, I79. Ya, I was on Interstates doing the speed limit. The mileage dropped when I switched to using ethanol gas, and the 'tick' came back. You inflate the mileage beyond the norm.

Again, I was riding behind the wife, who as I said was 3 months on a bike, thru the twisties, Ya we were going slow. The spyder holds 6.6 gallons of fuel, and gets 32mpg. She was almost on empty at 172 miles on the clock, so the mileage was the same. It wasn't the oil. It was you. You were in the zone and just had a great day of riding. Hummm... Maybe true, since retiring, I've had nothing but great days, but since I have the time and money to try things and report on them. Again all I said was try the oil, also using 100% gas. The results maybe frighting.
 

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Just curious. If you refill from cans not knowing the exact refill measurement, how can you determine you were right on 1/2 tank consumed over said distance?





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Engines or trannies go bad and it's always the fault of improper brand oil however just changing to another oil can fix and reweld all broken parts thereby turning back time to position just prior to any breakage.

This is why there are so many oil treads. It truly is magical. I believe Aliens first introduced oil to the Egyptians and ever since they have been posting the awesome power of oil on the internet.
Yes its true 3000 years and the postings are the same. Same vendors same claims same oil worshippers.

I have discovered some Amzoil blue dot super preamo lube master delux on my morning toast allows the bread to slide in - and out with greater ease :cool:
 

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The moral to the story?

At 40/45mph the wing will get 50+ miles per gallon. Its because of much lower wind resistance and a much lower cruising RPM.

(If you ever get in a situation where you're seriously concerned about running out of gas... slow down.)
 

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Thank you

The moral to the story?

At 40/45mph the wing will get 50+ miles per gallon. Its because of much lower wind resistance and a much lower cruising RPM.

(If you ever get in a situation where you're seriously concerned about running out of gas... slow down.)
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Don't forget that the man said "pure gas"...that WILL make a difference. On a Prius I've noted 3-4 mpg better mileage when running "real" gas vs gasohol. That certainly is PART of the answer here! Also, that low speed, low drag stuff will make a very noticable difference. Add 'em up and yeah, 50 mpg's there....
 

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I haven't read all the posts, but the fuel gauge is not 100% accurate. The tank holds, I believe, 6.6 gallons. You may have -- and probably did -- use more than 3.3 gallons while driving 172 miles. In my experience, the gauge drops slower on the first half a tank and moves faster below the halfway point.

To know exactly how much gasoline was used, it must be measured by volume and that can be accomplished easier at the pump by replacing what was used. This is the only way you will ever know for sure what kind of mileage you are actually getting.

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:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:Another oil tread. :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
For get that stuff....try AMSOIL....now thats the real stuff...

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