[Rocky]

I tend to agree with you--ever so slightly. Because, I always thought the problem here is that the 180 OEM is too small of a tire for touring on the Wingabego. I searched high and low on the possibility of a 200 on the rear and every-single-person who tried have super negative reports...

...along come the 195 runflat...more footing...

However, tomfranken makes a point that the 175 still has plenty more footprint than any OEM....
I'd agree with Tom on this point as well,because of it being a CT..

and on the lean, I have not heard a good viable perspective between the 195 vs the 175 footprint.
I don't think you'd be able to notice a difference betewwn the two..


what scares me is the higher rpm with an even shorter tire...there is no doubt in my mind that the 70 OEM makes the gear ratio the way it is supposed to be. the 60s are already too short for this gearing set up.
I agree that the stock 60 is to small in OD..But some who use it say the bike handles different than the 60?? I've never tried one,so I don't know that one either?? you have haven't you-What did you think of the bikes handling??

I think that is what some were trying to achive when they tried the 205 tire trying to correct the speedo error..

Don't get me wrong here,I'm not picking on any tire..I was just thinking that a narrower tire would need less counter steer from L to R turns..
That's why I said this above.

I like to see others do the same thing as with this 175..
The only way you'll know what you like is to try it for yourself just like so many have done trying different brands of MT's before becoming a Darksider...

 

[stick405]

When I used to fit tyres, eons ago, back in Blighty, one of the most popular sizes for nearly all saloon cars was 155 or 165/70 x 13 's.

The rims they fitted on were stamped with the designation 5 or 5 1/2 J. The 'J' suffix being the width between the beads. It was considered fashionable and trendy to be running on 'five and a half J's', all the cool dudes were using them on their 'Cortina's'

Anyway, here's the point.

I didn't notice when my 195/55 x 16 was shoehorned onto my rear rim but I'm guessing that the width between the beads is about 5 1/2 - 6", and now it's shod with a tire 30mm wider than would naturally fit that 'J' size.

Therefore I can see how the 175 might be the Holy Grail, in that no static sidewall stresses are existing due to the rim width.

These are just my thoughts, no criticism or concerns, I'm over the moon with my Kumho, just wondered if anyone else has considered the wider tread options we use might be squeezing the beads a bit to close together and possibly upsetting the loading of the tire sidewall.

I'm sure someone has looked at all the dynamics, and since we are using a tire in an application it's not designed for this is probably moot anyway, just thinking out loud.

Hope you're all having a wonderful day.

Hang in there Bev, we're all thinking of you.

John

Biggles, there is info somewhere on the rim width for either the 175 or 195mm tire and I believe we are within the range. Cheers...:doorag:

 

[Biggles 607]

Thanks Stick405, see, I knew we were all smart cookies really.

John

 

[Rocky]

Biggles, there is info somewhere on the rim width for either the 175 or 195mm tire and I believe we are well within the range. Cheers...:doorag:

Stick..after reading your above post(s) I too agree that any CT is far much better than the stock tire..

All I was wondering was if the narrower 175 made it easier or similar to the steering inputs as the stock tire vs the 195 being the wider of them all..Nando misread my asking or the terminology in my thoughts..

In other words,does the 175 feel that way due to it being narrower taking less time to transition from say the right edge to the flat part to the left edge of the tread going left to right in the twistys.That is all I was wondering..

Don't make me draw pictures for you-you won't like my pictures!:22yikes:
ROTFLMAO


I've looked at most if not all of the CT video's,and quite frankly my arse tells me more than any video would want me to believe if I had to make a judgment called based on one of those videos...lol


Rocky (who's still trying to get Nando to share what he's smokin)

 

[Nando]

For you hyper-spaced brainological creatures:

I do not smoke, drink nor abuse my cute boyish body in anyway...fact, I am a rather conservative and simple minded galactical alien from the far side of the dark rebel forces. The only altitude I gain from this weighty planet I live in now is a little prayer now and then....and I am praying for you guys....cause you seem to need it!!! :doorag:

stop asking me for drugs....:tongue:

I got a suggestion: get high riding with KA7W in his cropduster...ha!

 

[Guest]

I think you have hit the jackpot - In a year or so when mine wears out I sure will opt for the more narrow tire. You have the right idea and I have no doubt your going to find this tire perfect (more perfector than any other CT being used)

I am guessing this is a non-runflat?

 

[trialsman]

Storm, you are guessing incorrectly. The 175 we are using is a RF.:yes1:

 

[Guest]

Are these available in non RF? If so I think I may see if I can get one on my trike. I am kind of a RF non believer, not that I don't think the work it just seems to be self defeating with the stiffer sidewalls.
Where did you get this one?

 

[trialsman]

Waiting for mine so I can become part of this coversing! When is it coming only Trialsman knows?:biker:
Catch!

Put it on the Brown Truck yesterday, 3-day ground.:yes1:

 

[mikeboztx]

I googled this 175 tire and couldn't find it anywhere. Where is everyone getting it?
Thanks, Mike

 

[NH1800]

I googled this 175 tire and couldn't find it anywhere. Where is everyone getting it?
Thanks, Mike

I looked on the Dunlop web site, found the local Dunlop distributer (who happened to be the guy I deal with for car and truck tires anyway), and called him.

He checked the warehouse, said that they had 1 in stock, and that he could have it shipped in for me and would give me a call when it arrived.

Hope that helps

 

[stick405]

I googled this 175 tire and couldn't find it anywhere. Where is everyone getting it?
Thanks, Mike

Go to your local Discount Tire Store and have them enquire at the Dunlop or Discount Tire warehouse in York Pa. I believe this is where they come from. I know it's somebody's warehouse. Either that, or go to your local 175/60-16 friendly tire store and pick up a few. Cheers...:doorag:

 

[TrappersWING]

The 175 Rocks....

Paul, You da man. About 2 years ago during the Rockies Gold, Trialsman let me try out his scoot, and that ride convinced me to give a CT a try. I ride two up and pull a trailer quite a bit. When a Stone MT only got 4500 miles before it gave up the ghost, I put on a Connie SSR 195/55 and got about 15000 on the tire, and should get about 3000 more easy. Nice even wear. Absolutely no issues.

Discount Tire call the other day and said the 175's were in. I got one mounted today and it might be quite some time before the Connie goes back on to get worn out! This 175 is the best feeling tire I've had on my Wing, bar none. My bike feels awesome. Slow speed turns, high speed turns, ruts, wow!!

I'll never go back!!!!!

 

[stick405]

When we have a few more reports, I think we may be doing everyone a big favor by encouraging the use of the 175mm over the 195 and especially the 205mm. These larger tires being more readily available are great to get out of a jam on the highway. However, with normal routine tire changes its obvious to me that the 175mm is the way to go for greater control and normal MC characteristics. Cheers...:doorag:

 

[Guest]

You know that's all great but it will be years before I wear out the CT I have now. This is the problem with CT's, they last and last and last so how are we suppose to try the new ideas when the old one never wear out?

 

[stick405]

You know that's all great but it will be years before I wear out the CT I have now. This is the problem with CT's, they last and last and last so how are we suppose to try the new ideas when the old one never wear out?

I know what you mean. I have just 5k on my 195 Wintersport. I have relegated it to my back up tire.

I'm trying to find me a small violin and learn to play "Cry Me a River" Cheers...:doorag:

 

[trialsman]

You know that's all great but it will be years before I wear out the CT I have now. This is the problem with CT's, they last and last and last so how are we suppose to try the new ideas when the old one never wear out?

Storm, find another Wing rider who can be convinced to give it a try. Put it on their bike for a test ride, then, when they bring it back, make them a deal they can't refuse.:thumbup:

 

[31261]

Well I am convinced. Sometime next month I will run over to the trike shop and get another rear wheel and order a new Dunnie. Give it a try. Keep the Kumho as a spare.

Kit

 

[Shiver]

Storm, find another Wing rider who can be convinced to give it a try. Put it on their bike for a test ride, then, when they bring it back, make them a deal they can't refuse.:thumbup:

I almost suggested something along that line - well actually, I was thinking he could borrow me the tire for a few months and I was going to being it back looking like my head (rather thin on top).:lol::lol::lol:

 

[Rick Ekstrom]

Go to your local Discount Tire Store and have them enquire at the Dunlop or Discount Tire warehouse in York Pa. I believe this is where they come from. I know it's somebody's warehouse. Either that, or go to your local 175/60-16 friendly tire store and pick up a few. Cheers...:doorag:

Stick, Can you tell me what type of tire this Dunlop is? Example: (Goodyear Assurance Triple Tread.) Im looking for the type/style on the list but there is many models if you will. Just trying to narrow it down to the tire you have so I can research.