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A co-worker of mine, has a Challenger. Talks going around to warn owners of such issue. That's very interesting and expensive. It will end up where we will need to replace the battery the way you replace an air filter or plugs. I am assuming that low voltage/higher AMPS fries the module, in some cases? No internal protection.
 

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A co-worker of mine, has a Challenger. Talks going around to warn owners of such issue. That's very interesting and expensive. It will end up where we will need to replace the battery the way you replace an air filter or plugs. I am assuming that low voltage/higher AMPS fries the module, in some cases? No internal protection.
This is exactly what seems to be happening on a couple goldwings. The audio unit powers up the moment the center column knob is twisted. Then a second or 2 later the red start button is pressed to start the bike. Seems that when the battery is weak and pulls the full amps to try to start that’s when the Audio Units are having trouble with low voltage or over amperage. The internal protection circuit for the audio unit isn’t doing what it’s designed to do in some cases. If there was an on/off power button for the audio unit I wonder if this would be safer when starting and then can turn the audio unit on after the bike is running. There was a guy on FB maybe 6 months ago that said his dealer recommended that the audio fuse be pulled when trying to jump start a bike. Makes you think if the dealer already knows something going on with the Audio Units being damaged from dead,weak, failing batteries. Even with a digital meter like a lot of us have added to our bikes to show battery voltage, it can read 12.5+ volts at rest but a dead cell in the battery isn’t gonna rear it’s head until starting the bike which a dead cell can drop to as low as 9 volts.
 

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I did check #25 and it is fine. I took the battery in and the load test come back as a bad battery. I put the new battery in, and still have the same codes and no screen.

Looks like it’s a trip to the dealer. Bad thing is I’m 1500 miles from my home dealer. Glad I bought the extended warranty!
Check the fuse with an ohm meter, don't just do a visual inspection of it.
 

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First off I’ll admit I haven’t been following these threads real close or reread them. But if these audio units are blowing the fuse at the same time they go bad, maybe a lesser amperage fuse might help. That’s if it will still operate with the lesser fuse. Just thinking out loud. Fuses are cheap in comparison.
 

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Most overlooked culprit for this problem is the front ABS sensor. If the tire/brakes were replaced recently, check that ABS ring is on the correct side of the rim and the wire is secured, that is, everything is installed properly. I have heard about this ABS causing issues to irrelevant parts of the bike that we really don't think about.
 

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First off I’ll admit I haven’t been following these threads real close or reread them. But if these audio units are blowing the fuse at the same time they go bad, maybe a lesser amperage fuse might help. That’s if it will still operate with the lesser fuse. Just thinking out loud. Fuses are cheap in comparison.
I've considered that, but my suspicion is that even with a smaller fuse, it probably wouldn't act fast enough to prevent the thermal runaway event that is burning up components in the audio unit. I think once the fuse has blown, the damage is already done.
 

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By the way, I meant to ask the OP, do you have a CB installed on your bike?
Fred,
I didn’t have an ohm meter along, so I actually replaced the fuse. No, I don’t have a CB.

I’ve been working with my dealership back home, and after going thru about everything that was mentioned on here, it’s headed to a dealership here in Phoenix. I do have the 8 year warranty coverage, so I hope I don’t have anything to worry about. 🤔😳

Thanks to everyone that gave me some input. I’ll post the outcome.
Bryce
 

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My dct did the same thing. It ended up being one of the 2 fuses that are exposed right next to where the panel snaps into the lower rubber grommet. The owners manual calls them Ignition main fuse and ACC main fuse. The fuses were good but the connection was all green and corroded. Not covered under warranty. Maybe this helps someone else. I ride alot in bad weather winter or summer. These are just below the main fuse panel.
 

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My dct did the same thing. It ended up being one of the 2 fuses that are exposed right next to where the panel snaps into the lower rubber grommet. The owners manual calls them Ignition main fuse and ACC main fuse. The fuses were good but the connection was all green and corroded. Not covered under warranty. Maybe this helps someone else. I ride alot in bad weather winter or summer. These are just below the main fuse panel.
Good point. I'd check ACC Fuse #1 too while you're in there.
 

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Fred,
I didn’t have an ohm meter along, so I actually replaced the fuse. No, I don’t have a CB.

I’ve been working with my dealership back home, and after going thru about everything that was mentioned on here, it’s headed to a dealership here in Phoenix. I do have the 8 year warranty coverage, so I hope I don’t have anything to worry about. 🤔😳

Thanks to everyone that gave me some input. I’ll post the outcome.
Bryce
Hopefully your dealer will work with you. If your bike is under the original 3 year unlimited warranty then it should be covered. If the bike is now in the remaining 5 year extended warranty through Honda then most likely it will not be covered. The extended warranty clearly states that audio/navigation components will not be covered by the extended warranty. Speakers, the center display, or the main audio unit under the passenger seat. Again it could depend on your dealer what they do but if not covered it’s a 3000$ minimum repair job for parts and labor.
 

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Sounds like it’s the dash cluster. They are trying to run it thru warranty, so it will be Tuesday at the earliest before I hear anything.
 

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Sure hope they check those fuses first. My dealer almost did the same thing but decided not to go with the book and started checking other things and found that fuse wiring all crusty. That was at 77000 miles. It happened again at 116000 but I knew what it was that time. Bike still runs fine with that fuse out but does that.
 

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Sounds like it’s the dash cluster. They are trying to run it thru warranty, so it will be Tuesday at the earliest before I hear anything.
I betting it’s the audio unit under the seat. I can remember an owner having a dead screen but he still had audio etc playing through the speakers and could toggle through each audio source. There was no way of knowing what source was selected on the screen since it was dead but he could tell if he was on FM radio, Bluetooth etc. by listening . Everything on his bike was just the same and functioned the same just he couldn’t see anything. He was under the initial 3 year warranty at the time his screen was replaced. One other guy had some dead pixels but never posted a follow up
 

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Have you heard anything from Lewis with the faulty unit you sent him?
Last I talked to him, he was in the process of getting an infrared imaging tool in hopes of being able to locate a hot spot on the board when connected to power that would indicate where on the board the short is occurring.
 
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