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Another stupid rule by our government. How is a kid going to get lead poisoning from a battery terminal or spark plug, chew on them? A lot of kids out there will sure be disappointed not getting the mini dirt bike for birthday or Christmas.
 

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Another dumbass politician that needs to make a new law to get his name in the paper. Recall all of them
 

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Until WE THE PEOPLE of this great nation start communicating to our supposed leaders, THEY ARE JUST GOING TO RAM IT DOWN OUR THROATS. :evil:
I have been SO pissed off at our politicians for the last 3 yrs, that I am now very vocal, be it emailing them mostly.
Even though I am only one, I at least take a few moments of their day to respond back to me,
I don't know if it does any good or not, but at least I get to vent :22yikes:
 

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America is under attack from within, in aviation it is the TSA, here it is the CPSC, anything out of safety or security is taken out of context to the Nth degree. America is already stressed, I don't know what’s next but no one in government has to think things through, just restrict them. We pride ourselves as a nation of laws but are we not just saying how we like to restrict ourselves with no thought.
 

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This would ban ~95% of privately owned motor vehicles in India, China, Vietnam, Burma - just the ruling to make America more "green". Why don't they go after companies that have knowingly been selling tainted peanut butter, or importing food products from China with known melamine contamination? Because that is FDA turf, and FDA is bigger and more powerful than CPSC so they are afraid to invade that territory. CPSC is just another bureaucracy that has built their empire to the point that they feel untouchable, and now are looking for more territory. Not unlike a crime family, they aim for control, power and money while claiming to be protecting us.
 

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Armed Revolution

Thats the only thing that will fix this country any more!

But they have done a great job of making the people of this country
passive now so they can't/won't stand up and fight for their rights
ever again..... :cry:

This country is doomed to become Socialized with no rights of any
kind ever again.. :cry:
 

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Old news, and the article is innacurate as well. (big surprise there)

They aren't banning helmets, boots, chains, plastic body parts, and most other small bike parts. A few misinformed, idiotic dealers have been incorrectly interpreting the law to include all accessories and parts. The ban is only for the sale of the bike itself, because it has a battery that contains lead. Batteries contain such a large amount of lead that it causes the whole bike to exceed the 400 part per million limits of the law.

It is also inaccurate to say that they were only given 10 days to comply. They had almost 8 months. It was the fault of the manufacturers that they didn't react and notify dealers until 10 days before the law went into effect. They had more than enough time to plan and appeal.

What the article doesn't say is that on appeal from the manufacturers about two weeks ago, the CPSC is looking into the possibility of an exemption for bikes aimed at kids, and it will likely be approved.

It was never the intention of the law to cause a ban like this. It is a good law that protects our kids. Unfortunately, due to the tens of thousands of products that it applies to, it was impossible to foresee every contingency, and it will require some tweaking. The people in our government given the task of enforcing the law don't have any option other than to follow the letter of the law.

It will be straightened out. It isn't worth starting a "sky is falling" panic over this.
 

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Why don't they go after companies that have knowingly been selling tainted peanut butter, or importing food products from China with known melamine contamination?
Interesting article of how China handles corruption in their FDA...I wonder if the head of the peanut factory here in the United States will be executed, or maybe the head of our FDA...
http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2007/jul/11/news/chi-china_osnosjul11

Remember the China baby formula scandal of a few months ago? A couple of executions should send a pretty straighforward message.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/22/china-milk-scandal-2-get-_n_159908.html?page=2

My educated guess is if the United States started executing public officials and CEOs for corruption there just might be a little less of it...
 

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Interesting article of how China handles corruption in their FDA...I wonder if the head of the peanut factory here in the United States will be executed, or maybe the head of our FDA...
http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2007/jul/11/news/chi-china_osnosjul11

Remember the China baby formula scandal of a few months ago? A couple of executions should send a pretty straighforward message.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/22/china-milk-scandal-2-get-_n_159908.html?page=2

My educated guess is if the United States started executing public officials and CEOs for corruption there just might be a little less of it...
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You guys are double talking. First you whine about the US having too many laws, and then in the next post you want people beheaded for breaking laws.

Pick a side. You can't have it both ways.
 

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Why don't they go after companies that have knowingly been selling tainted peanut butter, or importing food products from China with known melamine contamination? Because that is FDA turf, and FDA is bigger and more powerful than CPSC so they are afraid to invade that territory.
Nope. It's because it wouldn't be legal for them to do so. Laws set out which areas which orgs have responsibility for. This all started with the furor over lead in toys imported from China. Foods are the responsibility of the Food and Drug Administration, consumer products the responsibility of the Consumer Products Safety Commission. They CAN'T "invade" the other's territory.
Old news, and the article is innacurate as well. (big surprise there)

They aren't banning helmets, boots, chains, plastic body parts, and most other small bike parts. A few misinformed, idiotic dealers have been incorrectly interpreting the law to include all accessories and parts. The ban is only for the sale of the bike itself, because it has a battery that contains lead. Batteries contain such a large amount of lead that it causes the whole bike to exceed the 400 part per million limits of the law.

It is also inaccurate to say that they were only given 10 days to comply. They had almost 8 months. It was the fault of the manufacturers that they didn't react and notify dealers until 10 days before the law went into effect. They had more than enough time to plan and appeal.

What the article doesn't say is that on appeal from the manufacturers about two weeks ago, the CPSC is looking into the possibility of an exemption for bikes aimed at kids, and it will likely be approved.

It was never the intention of the law to cause a ban like this. It is a good law that protects our kids. Unfortunately, due to the tens of thousands of products that it applies to, it was impossible to foresee every contingency, and it will require some tweaking. The people in our government given the task of enforcing the law don't have any option other than to follow the letter of the law.

It will be straightened out. It isn't worth starting a "sky is falling" panic over this.
+1, with two notes.

This wasn't the governments finest hour, these problems should have been foreseen.

I believe it's entirely possible that the manufacturers deliberately made this more chaotic, to make a political point.
 

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This is absolute bullflip. This is a decision that parents should be allowed to decide if their children ride or not. Baseball ,football, hockey , bikes,go carts ,bb guns might be next.

Dont let the government raise your kids. Hillary once said it takes a village to raise a kid . No it takes a parent(s)
 

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Old news, and the article is innacurate as well. (big surprise there)

They aren't banning helmets, boots, chains, plastic body parts, and most other small bike parts. A few misinformed, idiotic dealers have been incorrectly interpreting the law to include all accessories and parts. The ban is only for the sale of the bike itself, because it has a battery that contains lead. Batteries contain such a large amount of lead that it causes the whole bike to exceed the 400 part per million limits of the law.

It is also inaccurate to say that they were only given 10 days to comply. They had almost 8 months. It was the fault of the manufacturers that they didn't react and notify dealers until 10 days before the law went into effect. They had more than enough time to plan and appeal.

What the article doesn't say is that on appeal from the manufacturers about two weeks ago, the CPSC is looking into the possibility of an exemption for bikes aimed at kids, and it will likely be approved.

It was never the intention of the law to cause a ban like this. It is a good law that protects our kids. Unfortunately, due to the tens of thousands of products that it applies to, it was impossible to foresee every contingency, and it will require some tweaking. The people in our government given the task of enforcing the law don't have any option other than to follow the letter of the law.

It will be straightened out. It isn't worth starting a "sky is falling" panic over this.


Larry the new "Law" includes limits for Lead and some types of Plastic.
One of the big pitfall's is that the seller, mfr, etc have to prove that the product doesn't contain the limited amount of Lead or Plastic specified and has so may folks spooked with the threat of Fed's shutting them down with legal fees that they would rather remove and destroy the merchandise than risk federal action. That goes from ATV's & MC's to such mundane items as Books for children that may or may not have attached banned plastic toys included or even the binding be they new or used.


It would be one thing if the Feds had to prove that there is a "Banned" substance such as Lead or Plastic in the item but a whole 'nother thing when the seller has to prove a NEGATIVE, that is prove the the item in question doesn't include the Plastic or Lead above the limits.

Note that those limits on affected Plastic and Lead are scheduled to decrease over the next few years in steps as well.
 
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