Had a great ride home . Don took me down some back roads to experience the feel of the turns, the gravel, the grass, the slab and just about everything outside of water. I'm sold. Looking back I'm trying to recall the moment the Darkside riders first caught my attention and interest and for the life of me I can't remember when or why; but now having personally met you and Murgie I realize that it was the integrity of your character that comes through on this forum. Thanks for the ride . Sempre Fi.