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I'm sometimes confused by how forum members' signatures describe their bikes by 'generation'. I got this info (below) from Wikipedia today and summarized it. Is this accurate according to the groups consensus? The generations used on the 1800 are particularly confusing. I think I'll be riding a Gold Wing for quite awhile moving forward so I'd like to get this sorted out.

HONDA “Generations” per Wikipedia 2/2/2019

GL 1000 1st generation
GL 1100 2nd generation
GL 1200 3rd generation
GL 1500 4th generation
GL 1800 5th generation (or 1st and 2nd generation, respectively, if USA or Japan built)
GL 1800 6th generation (2018 onward)
 
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I'm sometimes confused by how forum members' signatures describe their bikes by 'generation'. I got this info (below) from Wikipedia today and summarized it. Is this accurate according to the groups consensus? The generations used on the 1800 are particularly confusing. I think I'll be riding a Gold Wing for quite awhile moving forward so I'd like to get this sorted out.

HONDA “Generations” per Wikipedia 2/2/2019

GL 1000 1st generation
GL 1100 2nd generation
GL 1200 3rd generation
GL 1500 4th generation
GL 1800 5th generation (or 1st and 2nd generation, respectively, if USA or Japan built)
GL 1800 6th generation (2018 onward)

So the new Goldwings should be designated as GL 1800-6 models? LOL!!
 

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So the new Goldwings should be designated as GL 1800-6 models? LOL!!
There'd be nothing wrong with that. Personally, I call the 2018+ Wings a 6th gen. The GL1800s from 2001-17 are 5th gens. If ya want to designate what 5th gen you have, post the year.

Probably to make ordering less confusing for their customers, for the 5th gens, a major GoldWing accessory web site started separating the 5th gens into 1st and 2nd generations. Unfortunately, when making such a declaration, confusion can later result, and we current have an example of such ... in 20018 Honda continued with a GL1800 model, but it is obvious all that it's a new generation, and respect of such should be given accordingly.

Regarding 1st and 2nd generations of the GL1800 ... the example I often use is this. Everyone knows that a 1957 Chev Belair, with its stylish new fins, is not a generation change from a 1955 Belair. Basically it's the same car with some improved upgrades similar to a 2004 GL1800. The 2004 5th gen had some improved upgrades over the 2001-03s. Thank goodness, no one started saying it was a new generation too.
 

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IMO they should stop referring to the 2018+ Wings as a "GL1800" and distinguish them as "GL1833". That would eliminate the "generational" confusion.

The "6th gen" Wings bear about as much resemblance to the previous GL1800's as a Honda Rebel does to a CBR1000RR
 
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It depends if your talking Goldwings in general or just the GL1800's. If you're referring to just the 1800's then the 2018+ would be the 3rd Gen of such. Seeing that this is a GL1800 forum I can see no problem referring to them as Gen 1, 2 & 3.
 

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Seeing that this is a GL1800 forum I can see no problem referring to them as Gen 1, 2 & 3.
Then please tell us what makes gen 1 a 1, gen 2 a 2, and 3 a 3 ???

Keep in mind, that if using the gen 1 and gen 2 labels, then why not refer to the 2001-17s in the following way. To me, anything less would be "short sighted":

gen 1 = 2001-03
gen 2 = 2004 vented windscreen, lit handle-bar switches
gen 3 = 2005 30th anniversary editions, upgraded alternator, carbon seat cover
gen 4 = 2006 - 2008 Europeaan rear lightening, premium sound, NAVI, ABS, comfort package, AGD change, visor upgrade and front and rear pocket changes, better cooling airflow, upgraded dash
gen 5 = special edition
gen 6 = 2010 weather radar, XM radio, TMPS
gen 7 = 2012 - 15 front and rear style changes, suspension upgrades
gen 8 = 2016 40th anniversary
gen 9 = 2017 no change

If I left features out, please correct me.
 

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If we are going to include the bikes that lead up to the GL1800 let's not for get the rest of the lineup.


Name Engine size (cc)
Beat (FC50) 48
Super Cub C100, CA100, C102, C50, Sports C110, C111. C110D, C114 49
CB50 49
Dio 49
Elite E (SB50) 49
Elsinore (MR50) 49
Express (NC50) 49
Hunter Cub (CT50) 49
MB5, MB50 49
Melody NB50, ND50, NP50, NS50 49
Metropolitan Jazz (CHF 50) 49
Metropolitan II (CHF50P) 49
Motra (CT50) 49
MT5, MT50 49
NCZ50 also known as Motocompo 49
Spree (NQ50) 49
Mini Trail (Z50A) 49
Mini Trail (Z50M) 49
Mini Trail (Z50R) 49
Mini Trail (Z50J) 49
Moped (P50, P25) 49
Moped (PA50/Hobbit/Camino) 49
Moped (PF50/Amigo) 49
Moped (PC50, PS50) 49
Moped (SFX50) 49
Moped (SH50) 49
Moped (X8RS) 49
SGX50 (Sky) 49
SS50 49
Trail 50 (C100H, C100T, CA100T) 49
XR50R 49
ZB50 49
Zoomer/Ruckus (NPS50) 49
AC15 50
Super Cub C105, CD105, Honda C115 Sports 54
Trail 55 (C105H, C105T, CA105T) 54
Super Cub C65, S65 63
C70 Passport, CD70 72
Motosport (SL70) 72
Motosport (XL70) 72
ST70, CT70 Trail 70 72
Scrambler (CL70) 72
XL80 79
Aero 80 (NH80) 80
XR80 80
CR85R Expert 85
Super Cub C90 (12 volt) 86
Super Cub CM90, Honda Trail 90 C200 87
Trail 90 (CT200) 87
Super Cub CM91, C90 (6 volt), CD90 89
Trail 90 (CT90) 89
S90 CS90, Sport 90, Super 90 90
Super Cub C100EX 97
Astrea Prima (C100EX) 97
Astrea Grand, Astrea Impressa, Dream 100, Astrea Legenda (C100EX) 97
Astrea Supra 100 Series (C100EX) 97
SupraFit, FitX, Wave 100(NF100) 97
Revo 100 (NF100) 97
Bravo 100
Scrambler (CL100) 100
H100S Super 100
Bali also known as SJ 100 100
Dio/Lead 102
Trail 110 (CT110) 105
GL-100 ASIA 105
Activa 109/125
Blade 110R, WaveDash 110R, CZ-i (NF11A) 109
Aviator 109
Revo 110 series, Wave 110 Series (NF110) 109
CB Twister, CB110 109
Dream Yuga/Dream Neo/CD 110 Dream 109
Livo 109
Honda iCON / BeAT 110 AT Series 109
S110 Benly 109
Honda Vario AT / CLICK AT 109
Honda Vario TECHNO AT 109
Honda Scoopy AT 109
Honda Spacy AT 109
Super Cub 110 109
XRM 110
CB125 122/124
XL125 122/124
MT125R 123
Benly (C92, CB92) 124
CB125E 124
CD125TC Benly 124
CB125TD Superdream 124
GL-125 124
GL-Max 125 (CB125JX) 124
GL-Max NeoTech 1250 (GL-125) 124
Super Sport (CG125) 124
CLR125 "CityFly" 124
CM125 124
Kirana (NF125 KPH) 124
Karisma (NF125 KPH) 124
Supra X 125 (NF125 KPH) 124
New Supra X 125 Fi (NF125 KYZ) 124
Blade 125 Fi(NF125 KYZ) 124
Elsinore (CR125M) 124
Juno M80 124
Honda LS125R 124
Honda NS125 125
NSR125 (JC20, JC21) 124
Scrambler (CL125) 124
Varadero (XL125V) 124
Aero & Lead (NH125) 125
CBR125 125
Atlas Honda CG125 125
Dylan 125 125
Innova (ANF125) 125
Pantheon FES125 125
PCX125 125
RC143 125
Rebel 125
Shadow 125
Vario 125 / Click 125 124
Shine 125
Nova Sonic RS125 124
Super Sport (CB125) 125
Super Sport (SS125) 125
Grom 125
GL-PRO (GL-145) 144
GL-PRO Black Engine (GL-145 Black) 144
CRF150L 149
CRF150R 149
CRF150R Expert 149
CRF150F 149
Unicorn 149
Trigger 149
CB150R (K15) 149
Verza (GL150) 149
New Mega Pro (GL150) 149
CBR150R 149
CBR150R K45 149
Winner 150 / Supra 150 GTR 149
Pantheon (FES150) 149
NSR150 (NS150) 149
FSX150 (NS150) 149
SH150, SH150i 153
Benly (C95) 154
TMX155 155
GL PRO NeoTech 1600 (GL-160) 156,7
Mega Pro 1600 (GL-160) 156,7
Juno M85 169
CD175 174
Super Sport (CB175) 174
XL175 175
Juno K 189
Reflex (TLR200) 194
Tiger 2000 (GL-200) 196
Phantom (TA200) 197
CB200 198
CL200 198
Fatcat (TR200) 199
Roadmaster (CD200) 200
Honda TLR200 200
Juno KA/KB 220
CD250U 233
CM250C, CM250T 234
Nighthawk (CB250) 234
Rebel (CMX250C, CMX250CD) 234
CR250R 248
Elsinore (CR250M) 248
Integra (VT250F) 248
Big Ruckus (PS250) 249
Dream (CB250) 249
Hornet (CB250F) 249
CB250 G5 249
Super Dream (CB250N) 249
CBR250 249
CBX250RS 249
CRF250L 249
MVX250F (MC09) 249
NSR250R (MC16, MC18, MC21, MC28) 249
Reflex (NSS250) 249
NX250/AX-1 249
Spada (VT250L, MC20) 249
XR250R 249
CBF250 250
CBR250R (MC41) 250
CJ250T 250
Dream (C70) 250
Dream (C71, C72) 250
Hawk (CB72) 250
Helix (CN250) 250
Sport (CB250) 250
CB250RS 250
VTR250 (Interceptor and MC33) 250
XL250 250
CB300R 286
XRE300 291
Dream (C76, C77) 305
Scrambler (CL77) 305
Super Hawk (CB77) 305
CB350 Super Sport 325
Four (CB350F) 350
Sport (CB350) 350
XL350R 350
Scrambler (CL360) 356
Sport (CB360, CB360T) 356
CL400 387
NS400R 387
CB400N 395
Hawk (CB400T, CB400T II) 395
CM400 395
VRX400 Roadster 398
CB-1 (CB400F, NC27) 399
RVF400R (NC35) 399
VF400F (NC13) 399
VFR400 (NC30) 399
CBR400RR (NC23, NC29) 400
CBX400 400
(Bros) NT400 400
Four (CB400F) 408
Scrambler (CL450) 444
Sport/Hellcat (CB450) 444
Nighthawk (CB450SC) 445
Hondamatic (CM450A) 447
Rebel (CMX450) 447
CRF450R 449
CB450DX (CB450N/PC14) 450
CR480 472
Ascot (VT500, VT500FT) 491
(VT500E) 491
Ascot (FT500) 498
CBF500 499
CX500 500
Four (CB500) 500
Shadow VT500 500
Interceptor (VF500F) 500
Magna V30 (VF500C) 500
NSR500 500
Silver Wing (GL500) 500
Sport (CB500 twin) 500
Tourist Trophy (GB500) 500
Turbo (CX500) 500
XBR500 500
Four (CB550F) 550
Nighthawk (CB550SC) 550
Four (CBX550F/FII) 572.5
599 600
CB600F also known as Hornet, and 599 600
CBF600N 600
CBF600S 600
Hurricane (CBR600F) 600
Honda CBR600F2 600
Honda CBR600F3 600
CBR600F4i 600
CBR600RR 600
Shadow (VT600C VLX) 600
Transalp (XL600V) 600
XR600R (offroad) 600
Four (CB650) 626
Deauville (NT650V) 650
CBX650 650
Bros/HawkGT (NT650) 650
NTV/Revere (NTV650) 650
Nighthawk (CB650SC) 650
Silver Wing (GL650) 650
Transalp (XL650V) 650
Turbo (CX650T) 650
Africa Twin (RD03) 650
XR650L 650
Dominator (NX650) 650
Honda CTX700N 670
Nighthawk (CB700SC) 700
Honda DN-01 700
Deauville (NT700V) 700
Transalp (XL700V) 700
Honda NC700D Integra 700
Four (CB750) 736
Hondamatic (CB750A) 736
Africa Twin (RD07) 750
CBX750 750
Interceptor (VF750F, VFR750) 750
Magna (VF750C V45) 750
Magna Deluxe (VF750CD) 750
Sabre (VF750S) 750
Nighthawk (CB750, CB750SC) 750
VFR750R RC30 750
RVF750 RC45 750
NR 750
XLV750R 750
RC212V 800
Interceptor (VFR800FI) 800
Pacific Coast (PC800) 800
Crossrunner 800
CBR900RR including CBR954RR 900
Custom (CB900C) 900
Super Sport (CB900F) a.k.a. 919 900
RC211V 990
Gold Wing (GL1000) 999
CB1000 1000
CB1000R 1000
CBF1000 1000
CBR1000RR 1000
Custom (CB1000C) 1000
CBX1000 1000
Hurricane (CBR1000F) 1000
RC51 (RVT1000R) 1000
Honda VTR1000f (a.k.a. Super Hawk a.k.a. Firestorm) 1000
Super Sport (CBX) 1000
VTR1000R (RVT1000) SP1 & SP2 RC51 1000
XL1000V Varadero 1000
Gold Wing (GL1100) 1085
CBR1100XX 1100
Magna (VF1100C V65) 1100
Sabre (VF1100S V65) 1100
Pan-European (ST1100) 1100
Super Sport (CB1100F) 1100
Racing Modified CB1100F (CB1100R) 1100
X11 (CB1100SF) 1137
CB1100 (CB1100A) 1140
Gold Wing (GL1200) 1182
VFR1200F 1200
CB1300 1300
Pan-European (ST1300) 1300
Gold Wing (GL1500) 1520
Valkyrie (GL1500C/F6C) 1520
Gold Wing (GL1800) 1832
 

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.... they should stop referring to the 2018+ Wings as a "GL1800" and distinguish them as "GL1833". That would eliminate the "generational" confusion....

Several vendors use GL1833 for the 6th Gen, and it sure makes things easier to find and purchase.
But the vast majority of the aftermarket uses just a generic GL1800.

And there are some Gold Wing forums that still lump the GL1832 and GL1833 together, making their sites just about worthless when trying to find maintenance or accessory help. That is why I like this site!
 

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Then please tell us what makes gen 1 a 1, gen 2 a 2, and 3 a 3 ???

Keep in mind, that if using the gen 1 and gen 2 labels, then why not refer to the 2001-17s in the following way. To me, anything less would be "short sighted":

gen 1 = 2001-03
gen 2 = 2004 vented windscreen, lit handle-bar switches
gen 3 = 2005 30th anniversary editions, upgraded alternator, carbon seat cover
gen 4 = 2006 - 2008 Europeaan rear lightening, premium sound, NAVI, ABS, comfort package, AGD change, visor upgrade and front and rear pocket changes, better cooling airflow, upgraded dash
gen 5 = special edition
gen 6 = 2010 weather radar, XM radio, TMPS
gen 7 = 2012 - 15 front and rear style changes, suspension upgrades
gen 8 = 2016 40th anniversary
gen 9 = 2017 no change

If I left features out, please correct me.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. :banghead:
 

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In my way of thinking, just state the year model and all else will be forgiven.

Honestly, the 2001 GL1800 up through the 2017 GL1800 are the exact same bike with normal minor evolution over time. Actually, given the time span, there was very little evolution. All of them are GREAT and WONDERFUL motorcycles. We are just beginning to "know" the 2018+ GL1800, but it may be a GREAT bike too. Honda Gold Wings have really been a blessing for us.

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Then please tell us what makes gen 1 a 1, gen 2 a 2, and 3 a 3 ???

Keep in mind, that if using the gen 1 and gen 2 labels, then why not refer to the 2001-17s in the following way. To me, anything less would be "short sighted":

gen 1 = 2001-03
gen 2 = 2004 vented windscreen, lit handle-bar switches
gen 3 = 2005 30th anniversary editions, upgraded alternator, carbon seat cover
gen 4 = 2006 - 2008 Europeaan rear lightening, premium sound, NAVI, ABS, comfort package, AGD change, visor upgrade and front and rear pocket changes, better cooling airflow, upgraded dash
gen 5 = special edition
gen 6 = 2010 weather radar, XM radio, TMPS
gen 7 = 2012 - 15 front and rear style changes, suspension upgrades
gen 8 = 2016 40th anniversary
gen 9 = 2017 no change

If I left features out, please correct me.
Not to be a stickler but the 40th anniversary year is 2015. That eliminates at least 1 gen :wink2:
 

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I'm sometimes confused by how forum members' signatures describe their bikes by 'generation'. I got this info (below) from Wikipedia today and summarized it. Is this accurate according to the groups consensus? The generations used on the 1800 are particularly confusing. I think I'll be riding a Gold Wing for quite awhile moving forward so I'd like to get this sorted out.



HONDA “Generations” per Wikipedia 2/2/2019



GL 10001st generation

GL 11002nd generation

GL 12003rd generation

GL 15004th generation

GL 18005th generation (or 1st and 2nd generation, respectively, if USA or Japan built)

GL 18006th generation (2018 onward)


So who fed that info to Wikipedia?
 

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If I was making the list, we would distinguish between the cooling system versions on 1832's....and pre-post airbag models...as well as the Japanese built with the different bags and USB support.


There is not doubt that the 2008 we had was different than the 2003, and that both of those were different than the 2014's . All were ABS.
 

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You telling me I got ripped off for 18cc when I bought my '85 GL1200? grin.
 
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