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Does anyone know if Hwy 88 is completely paved. From what I could find online they were in the process of paving it but not sure if its done. Thanks
 

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Does anyone know if Hwy 88 is completely paved. From what I could find online they were in the process of paving it but not sure if its done. Thanks
Nope...

Dirt section is in brown on this map:

 

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I hope they never pave it, it is a nice dirt road ride. Many folks have taken tour bikes all the way, Wings and Harleys. I would not but it has been done. Road Runner magazine had an article a few years ago where they took it on a rented HD.
 

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Thanks for the info. Maybe someone will chime in who has taken a wing over it.
 

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We just went to Ma's, in the town of Roosevelt, Saturday for breakfast. Took 87 to 188 down past 88. I've been on 88 with the Jeep, but I wouldn't take the road sofa (wing) on it.
 

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Ok that settles it. Will look for another route home...thanks for the help...
 

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I'm riding it this Friday, on my BMW GS Adventure....and then up 288 to Young (which would be a GREAT GW ride if they ever paved 288 allthe way through to 260)

The road is gravel and nicely graded but has small 'washboards'.

BigLefti has ridden it on his 'Wing with no issues, maybe he will post up.

I've not heard that there was a plan to pave the Apache Trail. Fish Creek Hill would cost a lot of $$$ to improve.


I can tell you the ride to Tortilla Flats for lunch is worth it! Pavement ends just past there...
 

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I've done it all the way on the wing. Fun. No. But doable. Your bike will be very very dirty. Would I do it again. No
 

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Ok that settles it. Will look for another route home...thanks for the help...
Since you'll be in the area, take Hwy 60 east out of the greater Phoenix area to Safford. Go a few miles east of Safford, turning left onto Hwy 191.

Fuel up in Clifton / Morenci, then continue north on The Coronado Trail, formerly known as the Devil's Highway, which makes the Dragon tame in comparison.

You won't be disappointed.

- David
 

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Since you'll be in the area, take Hwy 60 east out of the greater Phoenix area to Safford. Go a few miles east of Safford, turning left onto Hwy 191.

Fuel up in Clifton / Morenci, then continue north on The Coronado Trail, formerly known as the Devil's Highway, which makes the Dragon tame in comparison.

You won't be disappointed.

- David
Great suggestion..
 

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I've done it, but I would't recommend it on the Wing. What I would recommend though it to ride to Tortilla Flats, have lunch, then continue on to the bottom of Fish Grade and turn around there. That is the best and most scenic part of the ride and very doable if you tend to be a bit adventurous.
 

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Hwy 191 does look like a nice ride. I think we will be looking at that for our ride back. Then we can head back to Oklahoma via 60 instead of taking I40, which I have done numerous times, and will be taking it to Kingman Az on our way to Bakersfield. Kingman to Las Vegas for the evening. Then thru Death valley and finally catching 178 info Bakersfield. It looks like 178 follows the Kern River.

Thanks for the suggestions. It should be a great ride.
 

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I ride it on my wing 4-5 times a year, I like to take our Friends from the cold states out for a tour when they come down, most are happy to have done it but only one has done more than once with me :shrug:.
I think it's a nice ride :cool:
 

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I've done it on the wing, not that big a deal, but not that much fun cleaning afterwards.
 

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even the paved road is getting bad. was there last weekend to Tortillo flats.
 

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Hwy 191 does look like a nice ride. I think we will be looking at that for our ride back. Then we can head back to Oklahoma via 60 instead of taking I40, which I have done numerous times, and will be taking it to Kingman Az on our way to Bakersfield. Kingman to Las Vegas for the evening. Then thru Death valley and finally catching 178 info Bakersfield. It looks like 178 follows the Kern River.

Thanks for the suggestions. It should be a great ride.
If you're taking US-191 northbound...it's worth the ride, but that 90-odd miles is a good 3+ hours to accomplish.

If you overnight in the Safford, AZ area, you'll have a long day, but you'd make it to Kingman in a day of riding.

From Springerville, take AZ-260 east, through Show Low, back onto AZ-260, stay on AZ-260 @ Payson, then switching to AZ87 just past Pine, AZ, turn onto Lake Mary Rd, take that to Flagstaff.

From there, a short buzz down I-40 to Kingman.

Have fun!
 

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If you're taking US-191 northbound...it's worth the ride, but that 90-odd miles is a good 3+ hours to accomplish.

If you overnight in the Safford, AZ area, you'll have a long day, but you'd make it to Kingman in a day of riding.

From Springerville, take AZ-260 east, through Show Low, back onto AZ-260, stay on AZ-260 @ Payson, then switching to AZ87 just past Pine, AZ, turn onto Lake Mary Rd, take that to Flagstaff.

From there, a short buzz down I-40 to Kingman.

Have fun!
If he needs to travel faster, he could take 77 out of Show Low through Snowflake to Holbrook and catch I40 there.
 

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True, though, if riding 191 on the way home to OK, all of the directons I gave need to be reversed.
 

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Speaking of Payson, a brand new Carl's Junior just opened its doors a week ago.

For those so inclined...

- David
 
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