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Alice and I and another couple got out yesterday, but then it was only 72 degrees here. Turned out to be quite an eventful ride at the end. We were running some nice back roads up around Gainsville, TX when my bike started slipping in and out of 5th gear. I down shifted to 4th thinking maybe I didn't get it in 5th all the way. When I shifted back to 5th it was GONE. Nothing but a screaming engine and no go. Downshifted to 4th and all was good. Told our little group "Houston we had a problem" As we were about 40-50 miles from home we headed back at about 50 mph with me in 4th gear. When we got to our first stop sign I shifted down to 1st and that was gone as well. Alice pulled over, as we continued on, and called Denton Cycle Center to see if someone could stay late so I could drop my wing off for them to go over on Monday. They waited until we got there, at about 5:20, and my Wing now sits waiting to get tore down to find out what is wrong. First words from the service manager was bent shift fork. I am no mechanic but it sounded to me like the tranny went.

Oh well, it under warranty so I will just have to wait and see.
 

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Good luck, sounds like a shift fork, but I'm no expert. How many miles are on your Wing? Do you have floor boards?
 

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Good luck, sounds like a shift fork, but I'm no expert. How many miles are on your Wing? Do you have floor boards?
Joe,
No floor boards, and just shy of 41K.
 

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Alice and I and another couple got out yesterday, but then it was only 72 degrees here. Turned out to be quite an eventful ride at the end. We were running some nice back roads up around Gainsville, TX when my bike started slipping in and out of 5th gear. I down shifted to 4th thinking maybe I didn't get it in 5th all the way. When I shifted back to 5th it was GONE. Nothing but a screaming engine and no go. Downshifted to 4th and all was good. Told our little group "Houston we had a problem" As we were about 40-50 miles from home we headed back at about 50 mph with me in 4th gear. When we got to our first stop sign I shifted down to 1st and that was gone as well. Alice pulled over, as we continued on, and called Denton Cycle Center to see if someone could stay late so I could drop my wing off for them to go over on Monday. They waited until we got there, at about 5:20, and my Wing now sits waiting to get tore down to find out what is wrong. First words from the service manager was bent shift fork. I am no mechanic but it sounded to me like the tranny went.

Oh well, it under warranty so I will just have to wait and see.
just curious, what kind of oil do you use and how many mile are on your bike? bill
 

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Prepare to be without your bike for a while. They are going to have to remove the engine from the frame, split the cases, order parts, and then put it all back together. This is no easy repair any way you look at it. I hope you picked a dealership that has a top notch service department.
 

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I wonder what the true cause of this is? You can eliminate oil as any good oil is oil is oil and those who have problems use this or that. You can eliminate floorboards as some have them some do not. Most people are quite careful with their machines and do not abuse them , most are experienced and do not sit at a light trying to downshift three gears.

I have had mine jump out of fifth gear a couple times, normally during deceleration. Deceleration will relax the tension on the way the gears mate, and I think that is when one on occasion slips out of gear. (yes I use floorboards and no I did not bump it with my foot, it just popped out)

I had a BMW that did that once, it has 5 dogs on the movable shift gears, as the Wing has only 4. The gear dogs were quite worn when we tore it down, as was two of the forks bent, but I think this happens when it jumps out of gear.

I think it is the tolerance built into the system, the dogs wear a bit and start slipping, slip out and bend the fork and it goes downhill from there.

This one situation with a Wing that is on occasional situation , is the very reason I purchased the extended warranty. Seems to most of the time(not always) show up early in the bikes life, so might just be the luck of the draw as to if you have a bit of extra tolerance in the system. Kit
 

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AW *****! Start taking you meds now. Tell everyoue around you that you will be grumpy and mean cause you can't ride. So I guess the dealers are finally starting to acknowledge there is a problem.
Lucky for you your under warranty, If they don't say it's your fault.
Again $600 for extended warranty versus $3000-5000 for transmission repair. DUH!
Not trying to start the fight about how you never needed your warranty and it wasn't worth it. Here's a man joining the growing ranks of those that wish they had. Yes I am still Mad!
 

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Looking at the original post, the bike is a 2007, so the extended warranty hasn't even come into play yet, it should still be under the original 3 year warranty.

As for the cause, you won't know till they open it up, but a bent shifter fork is probably a good guess. But the question is why/how did it get bent in the first place?

I had my 02 come out of fifth maybe 3 or 4 times in 125K miles, when decelerating. It happened so rarely that I didn't loose much sleep over it, and I never had any other problems with it. In addition to the problems with fifth gear, I have heard some reports of folks finding a false neutral between first and second. I don't know if these two problems are related or not though.
 

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Alice and I and another couple got out yesterday, but then it was only 72 degrees here. Turned out to be quite an eventful ride at the end. We were running some nice back roads up around Gainsville, TX when my bike started slipping in and out of 5th gear. I down shifted to 4th thinking maybe I didn't get it in 5th all the way. When I shifted back to 5th it was GONE. Nothing but a screaming engine and no go. Downshifted to 4th and all was good. Told our little group "Houston we had a problem" As we were about 40-50 miles from home we headed back at about 50 mph with me in 4th gear. When we got to our first stop sign I shifted down to 1st and that was gone as well. Alice pulled over, as we continued on, and called Denton Cycle Center to see if someone could stay late so I could drop my wing off for them to go over on Monday. They waited until we got there, at about 5:20, and my Wing now sits waiting to get tore down to find out what is wrong. First words from the service manager was bent shift fork. I am no mechanic but it sounded to me like the tranny went.

Oh well, it under warranty so I will just have to wait and see.

Gary..Sorry to hear about your bike..Having had my cases split some 20K ago I know what you are going through..
It will take time to repair depending on the skill level of the Mechanic...

Mine was done under warranty and I'd go anywhere with it in a NY minute....

Keep us informed after the cause is found..



BTW: does this mean that Alice now has to take you for rides?? lol
 

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Hey Rocky!

The other couple we were riding insisted Gary ride his bike and they rode two up on hers back to our house (<5 miles). So Gary didn't have to go anywhere near my bike. :wrong:
I'm gettting ready to tear into my bike and do some maintenance / preventive maintanence to mine. She's got 96K on her now and I want to get her ready for the next 100K. Why don't you come on out and help me? We'll even put you up and let you visit your daughter while I'm at work! ; )
 

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:doorag: welcome to the tranny club. had my 07 transmission rebuilt last feb. same problem. only had 12,500 miles on it. took about a month.:p
 

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Hey Rocky!

The other couple we were riding insisted Gary ride his bike and they rode two up on hers back to our house (<5 miles). So Gary didn't have to go anywhere near my bike. :wrong:
I'm gettting ready to tear into my bike and do some maintenance / preventive maintanence to mine. She's got 96K on her now and I want to get her ready for the next 100K. Why don't you come on out and help me? We'll even put you up and let you visit your daughter while I'm at work! ; )
Hi Alice..When I talked to Gary last week I could tell in his voice how much he adores you and is proud of your "No fear" attitude in working on your bike yourself...And you weren't in ear shot for him to be sucking up for bonus points either.lol
You two are an inspiration as to what a great couple should be!! :thumbup:

I'd love to come out and give you a hand doing your mantinence..But with my 15 years old in school doesn't allow for that at the moment..


BTW: should Gary get PMS in a couple weeks and decide to hop on the back of your bike?? Would you be sure and get a picture of that for my scrap book of "Funny memories of my friends" :thumbup:
 

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Yep like Fred said if the mechanics at that dealership are not excellent and schooled well , I'd pay to tow it to a dealer that has top notch guys the motor is most likely coming out ,
I was a mechanic at dealerships a lot and most dealers don't send there guys to school much or at least maybe only one guy at the dealership, thats the guy you want working on your scooter.
most shops don't even have a wing in stock don't leave it at one of those, I'm surprised at how many Honda shops I go to don't have any wings pretty wild
 

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BTW: should Gary get PMS in a couple weeks and decide to hop on the back of your bike?? Would you be sure and get a picture of that for my scrap book of "Funny memories of my friends" :thumbup:
Rocky you never cease to crack me up :p

The only thing going in my favor is it is more or less "winter" here. We do get the 60-70 degree day and then it's 30-40. Feb. is usually our coldest month so hopefully I will get my bike back before the weather turns consistently good. As for the picture of me riding bi***, don't hold your breath :eek:4: I would be the worlds worst co-rider, even though Alice is an exceptional rider I would not be good on the back :oops:
 

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Rocky you never cease to crack me up :p

The only thing going in my favor is it is more or less "winter" here. We do get the 60-70 degree day and then it's 30-40. Feb. is usually our coldest month so hopefully I will get my bike back before the weather turns consistently good. As for the picture of me riding bi***, don't hold your breath :eek:4: I would be the worlds worst co-rider, even though Alice is an exceptional rider I would not be good on the back :oops:

Awww come on Dude.Just think of the Smile on Alice's face with you on back as she rides down the road honking her horn,Saying it must be "Stuck" when you ask her to stop blowing it when she spots one of your friends?? :doorag:


Hopefully you'll hear what the Dealer is going to do after they hear from the Honda Rep this week..
But it was good news for me to hear that your service dept told you "It's a bent shifter fork"
It seems to be a trend from what I've read that Honda wants their dealers to say "We haven't heard of this problem before" to the customer.
When we see just on this BBS that isn't the case with more and more bent shifter are showing their evil heads unexpectedly..


On the up side.from my experience,I know that Honda will authorize each and every part that it takes to make your bike right again,And those who had this tranny issue say that the bike shifts better than it ever did before.

Now please reconsider that pic for my scrap book will ya?? :doorag:
 

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Alice and I and another couple got out yesterday, but then it was only 72 degrees here. Turned out to be quite an eventful ride at the end. We were running some nice back roads up around Gainsville, TX when my bike started slipping in and out of 5th gear. I down shifted to 4th thinking maybe I didn't get it in 5th all the way. When I shifted back to 5th it was GONE. Nothing but a screaming engine and no go. Downshifted to 4th and all was good. Told our little group "Houston we had a problem" As we were about 40-50 miles from home we headed back at about 50 mph with me in 4th gear. When we got to our first stop sign I shifted down to 1st and that was gone as well. Alice pulled over, as we continued on, and called Denton Cycle Center to see if someone could stay late so I could drop my wing off for them to go over on Monday. They waited until we got there, at about 5:20, and my Wing now sits waiting to get tore down to find out what is wrong. First words from the service manager was bent shift fork. I am no mechanic but it sounded to me like the tranny went.

Oh well, it under warranty so I will just have to wait and see.




Gary;

I am a motorcycle mechanic for over 40 years now, I'm not going
to guess what is wrong with your Wing (even though I probably
could come close to knowing what it is)

The reason I am posting on this thread is to hopefully help you
and others avoid this problem in the future.

Back from the time I started in motorcycle repair I've noticed that
motorcycle tranys were fairly weak. Meaning if you pound on the
shifter while shifting you will bend the forks. Also if you rest your
toes on or under the shifter while riding you will burn the shift forks
out of it.

I'm sorry to say this on a Wing forum, but it is absolutely 100%
true. The strongest motorcycle trany out on the market is Harley
Davidson hands down. They are the only trany out there that has
always been able to take the abuse of a heel toe shifter and that
is why up until a few years ago the motorcycles made in Japan
never had heel toe shifters.

The two major cause's of trany failures in all my years has been.

#1 Heel Toe shifters on bikes that don't come with stock.

#2 Wearing steel toe work boots or very heavy large boots while
riding.

What I'm telling you and everyone reading this is: if your
motorcycle did not come with a heel toe shifter from the
factory (NEVER PUT ONE ON IT)

Also ever since the late 80's when most the motorcycle companies
started trying to save weight on their motorcycles, the one place
they have taken out a bunch of weight out of is the tranys.

The 1800 Wing was Honda's first touring bike with a lightened
trany. So now it is much more prone to steel toe/heavy boots
or heel toe shifters breaking them, just like the problem we've
had on sport bikes and adventure bikes for a long time now.

The sport and adventure bikes do not use floor boards but they
do wear heavy or steel toed work boots back and forth to work.
The adventure bike guys are wearing heavyer and heavyer boots
when they ride off road. This is mostly due to the guys riding
them are getting older and older like Wing guys. Old guys like to
protect their feet. Thats just life LOL"

I just happened to notice in your picture of you and your wife
that your wearing heavy riding boots or steel toed work boots.
This can be some of your cause of your problem's. I'm not in
any way trying to pick on you or anyone else at all. My post is
to help my fellow riders the same as I do in my shop.

Riders of modren light wieght motorcycles just need to be more
awhere of what they do with their feet and the foot wear the use
while riding to help make their trany's last.

Light wieght slim boots and no heel toe shifter's is the answer to
long trany life, now more then ever on these lighter wieght bikes.

I hope my post will help you and others from more trany problems.

Good Luck and Ya All" ride SAFE out there!
 
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