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Visual comparison - oe tire/195/175

Still a lot of interest in this tire, so I'm bumping it back to the top so those who are interested can see the actual tire compared to others.


Here's the 175-60 Dunlop Wintersport 3D Run Flat....the 195-55 Dunlop SP Sport 5000 Run Flat compared to each other and to a like new 180-60 Metzeler rear.

Here is the three tires side by side. I'm guessing you'll be able to determine which is which:;)






Here is the 175-60 next to the 195-55



Here is the 175-60 next to the 180-60 Metz motto tire




So, as you can readily see the 175-60 is shorter & narrower than the 195-55. It is also smaller than the stock size, 180-60.

My impressions on the handling differences are contained in another post called "The Bridge".

Hope these pictures answer some questions.
 

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Paul thanks for posting these tires side by side..It good for everyone else to see these too and make up there own minds...:thumbup:


I'm staying where I am.. (you already knew that too) :doorag:
 

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Paul,
Thanks for posting :bow: . It will help the ones that are interested in the 175 :smile: . I"m with Rocky though. I'm very satisfied with the 195/55.
 

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The Wintersport is as quiet as a mouse, just like all CTs.

Never thought about the shorter tire for shorter riders. I never noticed the shorter stance, if there was one. I was just trying to find a CT with more of the handling characteristics of a motto tire. This is the answer for me.

Gonna leave it on 100% of the time now and see what kind of mileage I get out of it.

As I stated in my "Bridge" post, it does throw the speedo off a little more, but I don't pay much attention to that in the twisties. And, for the slab, I have the Zumo.

Any 3D guys out there? What kind of mileage have you gotten?
 

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Paul,
Have you noticed less ground and/or cornering clearance? I would think there would be with it being a little shorter than the 195/55 or the 180/60.
 

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Frosty,

Haven't noticed any less clearance at all in the curves.
 

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Paul, did you notice any difference with the bike on the side stand or on the center stand?
 

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I have a dream

Trialsman, board, If only. If some day. If maybe. If there will ever

be a taller tire, as the 70 series. I have a dream.

Trialsman thank's for the post. Looks very grippy.

(Vanco not)
 

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There's a lot of good insight in these post. I will be considering these when it comes time for a new tire
 

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It's got a nice tread pattern
 

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Paul, did you notice any difference with the bike on the side stand or on the center stand?

Not really...But I was in the process of lenghtening the sidestand anyway by taking two trike takeoffs and blending them to make a stock stand that's an inch longer. I've felt it leaned too much since upgrading the suspension.
 

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By the tire number the 175 would be narrower than the 180. Kit
 

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Frosty,

Haven't noticed any less clearance at all in the curves.
Thanks Paul. That's good. Maybe with the upgrading of the suspension it has given you more clearance than a stock suspension. I would think that is the case seeing as how you are wanting to lenghten your side stand. I would think that with stock suspenders there might be a little less clearance seeing as the tire is just a little shorter but not by much. Shouldn't pose a problem to the average rider though, I wouldn't think! IMO.
 

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Verrrry interesting :!:

Other than the typical DarkSide application this tire may be of interest to a few Hack Pilots.

Many of us, if not most, with Sidecars for our GL1800's run CT's on the rear for a number of reasons not the least of which is the wear factor being very poor with a MC tire and the side loads.

Along with the CT application a number have chosen to use the 195-50 size to gear the rig down a little and this tire looks like it will be just the ticket for them.


I still have a Kumho Ice Bear 195-50 on one rim just for that purpose on occcasion when the Hack and Trailer are both attached. It as about worn out --- soooo one of these may replace it. It even looks like a better general purpose Winter tire than the Ice Bear has been too. ;)
 

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I know pictures can be deceiving sometimes from many factors..

But from this picture it looks like the CT is narrower than the Metz's??

It is narrower, Rocky, by at least 1/2 to 3/4s of an inch by my ruler measurement. That's probably why it corners so much like a motto tire.;)
 

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Paul..That's kind what I was thinking by the tires dimensions from the Discount tire calculator,But seeing them side by side is better to see how what you are/were describing about it's feel to a MT...

Thanks :thumbup:
 

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Question???

Trailsman, Are the two tires mounted and inflated?

-----180-60-16 and the 175-60-16-----
 
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