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Pireli Snow Control
Smooth and handles well. My first and wont go back
 

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Where can you get a run flat snow control this time of year? I have looked at a few sites and no one seems to have them.
 

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Try tirerack dot com or walmart dot com
 

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Looking for pros and cons on going dark! Open to suggestions on tire.
PROS
About 20% more miles from a tire.
Safer with a run flat.
Less expensive than a MC tire.

CONS
Shunned by the nonbelievers.
Does not handle as well at slow speeds on uneven pavement. But you lean to adapt. Once moving you can't tell any difference.

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Don't listen to people telling you that you will get really high mileage from a CT. The amount of miles depends greatly on amount of twisties you ride, the roughness of pavement in your area and your riding style. One person can take a X brand CT and get 35K out of it and another person that is more aggressive might get 6K out of the same X brand tire. Like I mentioned above, you usually will get about 20% from a CT than a MT. Reason why??? The CT has deeper tread.

It takes anywhere from 100 miles to 500 miles to adjust.

You didn't say where you are from????? I most usually have an extra CT mounted on a spare rim for someone to try for a few hundred miles.
 

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Pirelli P1 run flat! Pros: Price, Improved ride, good control, improved traction on wet roads, improved tread life, and it won't leave you stranded with a flat.

Cons: Purist hate the fact you run one and they don't.

Anyone who says they don't handle as well as a MC tire hasn't seen Murgie ride the twisties on one.
 

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Have run two diff tires on two diff bikes and hated both of them. That and the inability to get a tire worked on or changed out except for special places is a no go for me. So happy to get back to a MT.
 

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I guess it's time. I bought a spare rear rim about three years ago with the intention of trying a ct. I've been satisfied with the stock Bridgestone mc tires so the spare rim has just been gathering dust. I usually get anywhere between 10k to 15K miles before I need to replace. This spring I got a small nail in the rear tire. The tire didn't leak, but it was getting close to the wear bars so I replaced it. Today while checking the tires I noticed another nail in the almost new tire. Soapy water indicated just a very small leak. I pulled the nail and plugged the tire. Thankfully I found these nails while at home and neither caused any serious issue. But I need to take it as a warning sign. If there's one thing I hate it's getting stuck on the side of the road and even worse would be a sudden quick and complete deflation. I'll follow Monk's advice and buy a Pirelli run flat. I may even find the time to attend this fall's DS ride in and get to meet in person all you kamikazes :wink2:.
 

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I guess it's time. I bought a spare rear rim about three years ago with the intention of trying a ct. I've been satisfied with the stock Bridgestone mc tires so the spare rim has just been gathering dust. I usually get anywhere between 10k to 15K miles before I need to replace. This spring I got a small nail in the rear tire. The tire didn't leak, but it was getting close to the wear bars so I replaced it. Today while checking the tires I noticed another nail in the almost new tire. Soapy water indicated just a very small leak. I pulled the nail and plugged the tire. Thankfully I found these nails while at home and neither caused any serious issue. But I need to take it as a warning sign. If there's one thing I hate it's getting stuck on the side of the road and even worse would be a sudden quick and complete deflation. I'll follow Monk's advice and buy a Pirelli run flat. I may even find the time to attend this fall's DS ride in and get to meet in person all you kamikazes :wink2:.
SE YA IN OCTOBER IN PA ! :wink2:
 
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I can't say there is any con's as far as I am concerned except hearing the "flat earthers" tell me I am going to crash and burn. I can't tell much difference in the slow speed handing with the P1 and I get far more than %20 better mileage. I think a lot depends on your style of riding. Most of my riding miles are put on outside my home state so you can't say my mileage is so high because I live in the "tail of the gator" state. As long as I can get P1's from Tire Rack or Tire Kingdom that's what I will ride on. When I can't I will find another place.
 

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Many of us acquired a second rear wheel from a trike take off.
I like others mounted the run-flat Ct on one rim, and had the other MC tire there to swap back and forth to compare.
I originally thought he CT would be for those long trips out to nowhere. where the run flat feature would get us out of trouble.
That was about 8 years ago, and honestly, the right run-flat CT has proved to perform so much better and in so many conditions and situations, I have actually lost confidence in the OEM motorcycle tire.
Perhaps the best way to compare is first selecting the "right" CT, and also having 2 rear wheels so one can swap back and forth. This is what I did 8 years ago and even periodically today. But I always come to the same conclusion. The MC tire just does not deliver the better load rating, run-flat feature, traction, smooth ride and gyroscopic stability in severe cross winds.... as does the CT.
First. Mich- Alpin
Now Pirelli Winter 210 snowcontrol


So that's my story.:serious:
Corventure Dave
 

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Perhaps the best way to compare is first selecting the "right" CT, and also having 2 rear wheels so one can swap back and forth. This is what I did 8 years ago and even periodically today. But I always come to the same conclusion. The MC tire just does not deliver the better load rating, run-flat feature, traction, smooth ride and gyroscopic stability in severe cross winds.... as does the CT.
First. Mich- Alpin
Now Pirelli Winter 210 snowcontrol


So that's my story.:serious:
Corventure Dave
Interestingly, when I first tried the Michelin, I did not like it at all. I'm currently running a Yoko, but am going to try the SnowControl next.
 

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I think it might be time to stop calling it the darkside. Why be defensive? Running a CT, particularly a run-flat CT, on a motorcycle is an absolute no-brainer. It's an enlightened view and should be called the lightside.
 

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I think it might be time to stop calling it the darkside. Why be defensive? Running a CT, particularly a run-flat CT, on a motorcycle is an absolute no-brainer. It's an enlightened view and should be called the Enlightenedside.
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I think it might be time to stop calling it the darkside. Why be defensive? Running a CT, particularly a run-flat CT, on a motorcycle is an absolute no-brainer. It's an enlightened view and should be called the lightside.
I'm not defensive about the tires I run. However, IMO the industry will never embrace CTs on a MC. It is very simple - follow the money. I spend $200 or so on a MC tire and get 10K out of it. I spend $120 or so on a RF CT and get 15K from the tire. Why would Bridgestone / Dunlop / Michelin support me buying a cheaper tire and getting more miles out of it? Why would motorcycle publications who are supported by tire companies recommend cheaper tires with longer life?

BTW: My last Yokohama Avid Envigor RF CT was a couple of years old when I bought it and I paid $95 for it. What a deal! I knew it was going on the bike within a week of the tire being delivered and I knew it would be worn out within 6 months so I did not worry about its age. (I know some people do not like the Yoko, but I get along with it OK.) .
 

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My thanks to all that replied to my ?s. I live currently on the Western side of Washington State, where even concrete blocks grow fur, my GW is an 2012 which I am enjoying immensly.
I do plan on going Dark, ..... My next ? is not so much the tire but the size, definitely will be RF as I have had the experience of recently running over some debris and having the rear tire immediately go flat....not a fun thing to have happen at freeway speeds.
Thanking you in advance
JMAC
 

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My thanks to all that replied to my ?s. I live currently on the Western side of Washington State, where even concrete blocks grow fur, my GW is an 2012 which I am enjoying immensly.
I do plan on going Dark, ..... My next ? is not so much the tire but the size, definitely will be RF as I have had the experience of recently running over some debris and having the rear tire immediately go flat....not a fun thing to have happen at freeway speeds.
Thanking you in advance
JMAC
195/55 R16

Blowing a tire at freeway speeds on the West side of Washington can't be all that bad. Rush hour speed is like what, 2 hours a mile? :wink2: Good luck, ride safe, and keep the shiny side up.
 
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