[Robert C Schill]

well, my first Goldwing that left me needing a ride.
I drove to work Thursday and at 5pm when I went to leave and turned the ignition switch and nothing, no light, no dash warning about key. Checked battery, 12.7 volts all fuses good and powered. tried pin for ignition when key is lost, did not work. Wife brought down extra key, no good. Fob works luggage and alarm but bike cannot see any keys. white light will not even light up when any keys are near it. Only after market is Traxion dynamics suspension damper block off plugs to keep it in sport mode. I didn't load test the battery but it runs the horn at full volume when using the fob and shows 12.7 volts. Honda has it now and will let you guys know what they find.


Im a Diagnostic specialist for a Lexus dealer here but I do not have a way of checking for codes. It's under warranty so well see.


My last Goldwing needed a panel replaced due to shipping damage, after the repair I had to re-disassemble the all the shelters and complete front fairing to put it back together right as the dealer had some kids working on it that were new to the field. wrong bolts, missing bolts, stripped, broken trim. Hopefully I wont have to do that again but I will check it out anyway. Different dealer this time but they already left bolts out on the pre delivery service.

I'll keep my chin up

 

[murf]

Hopefully your problem will be resolved in a timely manner.

:doorag:

 

[Captron]

Finger's are X'd for you!

That's got to be the worst feeling in the world, not to hear your bike starting....................But "think about it" what's the best feeling in the world? Hearing your bike starting

Ronnie

 

[Gregsgoldwingdct]

See my post from yesterday. This is very similar to the problem I had. Was close to home & my wife came with tools, volt meter & jumper cables. I’m anxious to hear what they find on yours. Mine did come back on, but when I pressed start button everything went black (off) again. Hooked up battery cables, it cranked instantly. Checked this morning & everything is working flawlessly.

 

[INTHEWIND]

Maybe a bunch of bad batteries are showing their ugly head.:frown2:

 

[Gregsgoldwingdct]

Did find this morning that positive battery terminal was not tight. At least 1 full turn of the ratchet to get it tightened back up. Hope that was it.

 

[UNCLEJOHN]

I had battery that was only 6 months old on my 08 and got nothing. On battery post was an allen bolt that held the post to battery . Was loose so battery wouldnt charge. Tightened and all was good . Let us know your issue. Would really suck if in "bfe" and decided to fail !

 

[chitown]

I picked up my new Tour DCT in early September. Truly a great bike. A few weeks ago it failed to start after being idle just four days. Hmm. I plugged in the Optimate 4 battery tender for the first time and later the bike started fine and I went for a ride. Then having sat idle for six days it failed to start again exhibiting the same symptoms: lights and accessories work, there was a mechanical noise when pushing the start button but engine did not turn over. This time no amount of time on the tender made a difference. Battery connections were verified clean and tight.

I bought the bike at Niehaus Rt 66 Cycle Sales in Litchfield Il, over a three hour ride. Great buying experience. At their advice I removed the battery and brought it into my local dealer who tested it. "0" battery health was the diagnosis: replace the battery. That's good I thought, good chance it's not the bike. Then the local dealer refused to warranty the battery, saying it was unique from every other part on the bike and I had to bring it to the dealer I bought it from. Cost for a new battery then and there? $150.

One of the owners at Niehaus later called and we spoke at length. He disagrees with the local dealer's position and intervened on my behalf. Alas, they refused to budge. Then Niehaus had me choose another dealer much closer than he and called ahead to insure my battery would be dealt with under warranty. My plan is to wait for a break in the Chicago area weather, attempt to start the bike after charging battery with a small old-school charger on his advice, and ride it to that shop as they require having the bike. Jumping the bike is an option the manual says shouldn't be done.

The point of this post is to verify that indeed bad batteries are possible culprits on these new bikes when starting issues occur. It's also a commentary on traveling a bit to get the best deal on a new bike. My local dealer promises that any other warranty issue I have they will be happy to take care of, but they certainly didn't leave me with a warm fuzzy. Very frustrating to drop this kind of coin and have to struggle with getting a simple failure addressed.

 

[Robert C Schill]

To update my Dead bike, The dealer called and said I had my key turned off. Im sure this could have happened because I never actually checked my key. When my wife came to rescue me with her key she had told me she turned it on but I never verified that. Plus I could never get the PIN number to start the bike and the fob worked for luggage and so I assumed the Key was on.

I feel Silly but feel better about bikes reliability which has been great so far. 6200 miles.

Sorry about the false alarm...

Robert

 

[Joey Honz]

May be an obvious answer to a dumb question.....

But how do you turn a key on or off?

 

[SKYFLIX]

May be an obvious answer to a dumb question.....

But how do you turn a key on or off?

Press and hold the button until you get 1 flash (off) or 3 flashes (on).

 

[remoandiris]

deleted.

 

[Joey Honz]

Press and hold the button until you get 1 flash (off) or 3 flashes (on).

Thanks!

 

[virginiawing]

You can verify the status of either on or off status by a single push.

One light=off
Three lights=on

 

[Lmoody]

To update my Dead bike, The dealer called and said I had my key turned off. Im sure this could have happened because I never actually checked my key. When my wife came to rescue me with her key she had told me she turned it on but I never verified that. Plus I could never get the PIN number to start the bike and the fob worked for luggage and so I assumed the Key was on.

I feel Silly but feel better about bikes reliability which has been great so far. 6200 miles.

Sorry about the false alarm...

Robert

I'm with you, because the bags opened I too would have aassumed the FOB was on. Very odd....?

 

[traveler46]

well, my first Goldwing that left me needing a ride.
I drove to work Thursday and at 5pm when I went to leave and turned the ignition switch and nothing, no light, no dash warning about key. Checked battery, 12.7 volts all fuses good and powered. tried pin for ignition when key is lost, did not work. Wife brought down extra key, no good. Fob works luggage and alarm but bike cannot see any keys. white light will not even light up when any keys are near it. Only after market is Traxion dynamics suspension damper block off plugs to keep it in sport mode. I didn't load test the battery but it runs the horn at full volume when using the fob and shows 12.7 volts. Honda has it now and will let you guys know what they find.


Im a Diagnostic specialist for a Lexus dealer here but I do not have a way of checking for codes. It's under warranty so well see.


My last Goldwing needed a panel replaced due to shipping damage, after the repair I had to re-disassemble the all the shelters and complete front fairing to put it back together right as the dealer had some kids working on it that were new to the field. wrong bolts, missing bolts, stripped, broken trim. Hopefully I wont have to do that again but I will check it out anyway. Different dealer this time but they already left bolts out on the pre delivery service.

I'll keep my chin up

With my first 1500 Wing, after washing the bike, the engine would not spin at all. Turned out the battery went belly up. No indication of any problem before that.

 

[Gene Young]

To update my Dead bike, The dealer called and said I had my key turned off. Im sure this could have happened because I never actually checked my key. When my wife came to rescue me with her key she had told me she turned it on but I never verified that. Plus I could never get the PIN number to start the bike and the fob worked for luggage and so I assumed the Key was on.

I feel Silly but feel better about bikes reliability which has been great so far. 6200 miles.

Sorry about the false alarm...

Robert

My fob got accidentally turned off once. Since I never turned it off, I did not even check it. I started pulling fuses. Finally I tried the fob on/off and bingo. Won't make that mistake again.

 

[murf]

To update my Dead bike, The dealer called and said I had my key turned off. Im sure this could have happened because I never actually checked my key. When my wife came to rescue me with her key she had told me she turned it on but I never verified that. Plus I could never get the PIN number to start the bike and the fob worked for luggage and so I assumed the Key was on.

I feel Silly but feel better about bikes reliability which has been great so far. 6200 miles.

Sorry about the false alarm...

Robert

I’m surprised you couldn’t start the bike using the emergency start procedure. The emergency start procedure doesn’t care if the battery in the fob is dead, the fob is off, or if ya lost the fob.

:doorag:

 

[marcparnes]

On my first all day ride I had the fob in my pocket. When the key warning light went on I pulled over and tried everything till I pulled out the book, read it and then turned the key back on. Sometimes when in your pocket it presses on something and just turns itself off. Live and learn...

Marc

 

[greyhound]

Speaking of key fobs - how long should the battery last?? Hadn't given it a thought but I've had to replace both fob's batteries in my '13 Camry this year. My '02 GW original is still going strong as far as I can tell. Don't use it much but still - Maybe it's time to replace the battery....