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Dyna-Beads in trailer tires???

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#1 ·
Here is your "out of left field" question of the day. Do you put Dyna-Beads in the cargo trailer tires you pull behind your Wing? If not, why not? If so, how much? Also, I seem to remember reading here that the tongue weight should be 10%-15% of total trailer weight. Any thoughts? I'm getting ready for our first trip pulling the aluminum cargo trailer. With my current vast and extensive knowledge, I am, again, a thoroughly dangerous man.

Chief
 
#6 ·
read these

+1 on the dynabeads - one ounce. Regarding the trailer loading - yes to 15% of total trailer weight for tongue loading to prevent oscillations from occurring due to load imbalance. (still won't help a poorly designed trailer setup, but won't make it worse).

Some items for your reading pleasure:

http://gl1800riders.com/forums/showthread.php?174613-In-Addition-to-the-Hitch&highlight=trailer

and especially this one:

http://gl1800riders.com/forums/show...read.php?328574-Looking-for-trailer-need-help!!!/page2&highlight=tailwind+finch
 
#7 ·
Maybe I'm just fortunate, but I've never felt the need for beads in the trailer tires. My last trip pulling the trailer, with 8" tires, was ~ 5K miles. Not one of the high-end trailers. (32 ft3) Never knew it was back there. Yes, I did have new tires & rims, and I believe they were balanced from the supplier. But I do run the DB's on the bike. BB
 
#9 ·
Tip of the day.

For the guys that store their bikes for the winter months with the beads in the tires.

After storage and when ready to ride, use a rubber mallet or even a baseball bat to whack the tires all around, theres a chance the beads might of clumped up on one spot because they sat in the same spot for a prolonged period of time, this will free them and asure they work properly.
 
#10 ·
Sorry, they actualy recommend 2oz per tire for the Wing, I use just 1oz on the front and 2 oz on the rear.
I agree 2 and 2. I don't know why people keep saying 3 for the rear tire especially the bead site says 2 for that size tire. I actually went to a dealer and asked for 2 for front 3 for rear and they asked why I wanted 3 for the rear. That just confirmed 2 and 2.
 
#11 ·
The op is asking about dynabeads for TRAILER tires--- which are substantially smaller than the GW tires are!! 1 ounce per tire s/b good for TRAILER tires. I think most darksiders who use dynabeads, use 3 ounces in the larger rear tire(car tire).
 
#13 ·
Tip of the day.

For the guys that store their bikes for the winter months with the beads in the tires.

After storage and when ready to ride, use a rubber mallet or even a baseball bat to whack the tires all around, theres a chance the beads might of clumped up on one spot because they sat in the same spot for a prolonged period of time, this will free them and asure they work properly.
:22yikes::22yikes::popcorn:
 
#15 ·
When in doubt...

I agree 2 and 2. I don't know why people keep saying 3 for the rear tire especially the bead site says 2 for that size tire. I actually went to a dealer and asked for 2 for front 3 for rear and they asked why I wanted 3 for the rear. That just confirmed 2 and 2.
When in doubt - go to the source, in this case the manufacturer. 3 ounce for the rear is correct for a ct, 2 oz for a stock mt tire.
Edit: jerrieric statement is correct for a stock tire.

http://www.innovativebalancing.com/chart.htm#MotorcycleChart

Motorcycle applications are easy for all bikes, 2 wheel
or 3 wheel
Front​
80 - 120 mm tire width
1 oz
80 - 120 mm tire width (BMW
Telelever only)
2 oz
130 mm tire width
2 oz
Rear​
130 mm - 240 mm width
2 oz
250 mm - 360mm tire width
3 oz
195 - 205 car tires on the rear
3 oz
 
#16 ·
When in doubt - go to the source, in this case the manufacturer. Dealer might want to do the same. 3 ounce for the rear is correct.

http://www.innovativebalancing.com/chart.htm#MotorcycleChart


Motorcycle applications are easy for all bikes, 2 wheel
or 3 wheel

Front​

80 - 120 mm tire width

1 oz

80 - 120 mm tire width (BMW
Telelever only)

2 oz

130 mm tire width

2 oz

Rear​

130 mm - 240 mm width

2 oz

250 mm - 360mm tire width

3 oz

195 - 205 car tires on the rear

3 oz

Rear tire size on a Wing is 180/60R16, I see 2oz.
 
#18 ·
Thanks to all you guys. I really appreciate your input.

Next question; Storm, are just pissed at me, or are you pissed all the time?

Chief
Chief,

He's not "pissed" at you or anyone, well... maybe at me and Rocky, thats just Storm being Storm, way out there if you know what I mean. ;)
 
#19 ·
yep

Rear tire size on a Wing is 180/60R16, I see 2oz.
Yep, you be correct sir. I've been running a ct for so long forgot the original size mt tire. Mea Culpa.
And apologies to jerrieric.
 
#20 ·
Nope I an not angry I just happen to be mechanical and understand physics etc. It's a curse but I cope ;)

Most people relay on guessing and imagined results because it compensates for there lack of understanding how mechanical things really work.
I build things and engineer many projects so I try to shed truth on most subjects.
If I was angry I would be a IWG - I am much the opposite I assure you.

And there is also the stone in the chicken house :)
(1) I think it would be "their" lack of understanding. I'm not very mechanical.
(2) I don't know what an "IWG" is.
(3) I don't have clue about the "stone in the chicken house".

I'm so ignorant it's hard to insult me.

Chief
 
#21 ·
1 - Thanks for correcting my misspelling - I hate misspelling. It is a scientific fact that it really is virtually impossible to detect difference in oil slipperyness. Even the labs with all there equipment can barely measure this. It is 100% imagination.
Classic example from the darksiders forum - "The tire felt a bit mushy so I added 2lbs and now it rides like it's on rails"
Of course this person doesn't realize that same tire changes 8-10lbs from cold to warm and he can't feel that and he has to check the tire pressure every time he stops because he can't till if the tire has air or is flat. Yet he can feel 2lbs, only becuase he "imagines" the feeling.

2. Just jump on the OTE hate board and you will see - it is is just the extreme version of angry old men

3. It is a term and a condition we farm boys understand regarding the behavior of chickens. The same effect is reproduced here by simply stating facts.

All in all it's all fun all good ;) (even with misspellings)
:22yikes:
 
#22 ·
Yes sand is equally ineffective in trailer tires so you will achieve zero results regardless of what tires you dump the sand in.
If the tires need balancing - just balance them. That always works :thumbup:
Thanks to all you guys. I really appreciate your input.

Next question; Storm, are just pissed at me, or are you pissed all the time?

Chief
Nope I an not angry I just happen to be mechanical and understand physics etc. It's a curse but I cope ;)

Most people relay on guessing and imagined results because it compensates for there lack of understanding how mechanical things really work.
I build things and engineer many projects so I try to shed truth on most subjects.
If I was angry I would be a IWG - I am much the opposite I assure you.

And there is also the stone in the chicken house :)
(1) I think it would be "their" lack of understanding. I'm not very mechanical.
(2) I don't know what an "IWG" is.
(3) I don't have clue about the "stone in the chicken house".

I'm so ignorant it's hard to insult me.

Chief
1 - Thanks for correcting my misspelling - I hate misspelling. It is a scientific fact that it really is virtually impossible to detect difference in oil slipperyness. Even the labs with all there equipment can barely measure this. It is 100% imagination.
Classic example from the darksiders forum - "The tire felt a bit mushy so I added 2lbs and now it rides like it's on rails"
Of course this person doesn't realize that same tire changes 8-10lbs from cold to warm and he can't feel that and he has to check the tire pressure every time he stops because he can't till if the tire has air or is flat. Yet he can feel 2lbs, only becuase he "imagines" the feeling.

2. Just jump on the OTE hate board and you will see - it is is just the extreme version of angry old men

3. It is a term and a condition we farm boys understand regarding the behavior of chickens. The same effect is reproduced here by simply stating facts.

All in all it's all fun all good ;) (even with misspellings)

Did that clear everything up for you or are you even more confused now Chief ? Lol....
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