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From CNN ... this what FCC is claiming

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-- Proposed broadband wireless could interfere with GPS
-- FCC blocking construction until GPS controversy solved
-- Capitol Hill pressures for protection of GPS

Federal regulators vow to protect GPS from potential interference

By Paul Courson CNN

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The government promises to keep your GPS safe from potential interference that could be caused by a new broadband wireless system now under review by federal regulators.
The system being developed by the company "LightSquared" would use satellites and relay transmitters on the ground to pass high speed Internet data. But an early design involved signals that could potentially block reception of those used for GPS -- the locating service used by consumers, aviation, agriculture, boaters and cellular 911 systems, among others.
Construction of the new system is on hold as federal regulators wait for the industry to eliminate the risk of interference with GPS receivers.
"We're not gonna do anything that creates problems for GPS safety and service," said FCC chairman Julius Genachowski at a briefing Tuesday with reporters. Congressional lawmakers, responding to concerns that began to be raised months ago by the GPS industry and grassroots groups, have demanded to know why the agency failed to realize the potential problem.
In a letter among colleagues this past May, several members of the U.S. House of Representatives warned, "These new transmission stations will emit signals that are one billion times more powerful than satellite GPS. These ground-based signals will interfere with GPS usage and could render the technology useless in many areas of the country."
The letter urged fellow lawmakers to ask the FCC to reconsider their decision granting tentative approval to the project.
Also in May, a bi-partisan group of U.S. senators expressed concern in a letter sent to the FCC chairman, asking that "the full Commission be involved in the process of making sure GPS is not compromised in any way, that the FCC require an objective demonstration of non-interference with GPS, and that the waiver for LightSquared be withdrawn until this demonstration is met."
LightSquared has since proposed a greater distance in frequency between its system and the signals used by GPS, minimizing the chance for interference.
But the FCC is not yet convinced the problem has been solved, even as the FCC chairman continued to defend LightSquared's idea to "both protect GPS and allow a new service to launch that will lead to billions of dollars in private investment, real job creation, and competition."
At a background briefing between FCC staff and reporters, the agency's technical experts and a government attorney explained the interference would not be LightSquared's fault, but rather, would be from the design of GPS receivers that makes them vulnerable to powerful nearby signals.
The GPS industry has disputed whether its receivers are the problem, since they were designed without a presumption a loud neighbor would move to frequencies nearby.
Nonetheless, two working groups are trying to cooperate in developing a plan to situate the LightSquared transmitters far enough away to not cause problems for GPS. And FCC staffers say the agency would frown on setting aside too much spectrum as a buffer, preventing a new use merely to insulate another service.
The agency could provide no timetable as to when continued testing, design modification, and FCC review of the project would be complete.


 

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I know that the military has access to a GPS system with much higher and accurate resolution than is used by us civilians -- but I am assuming that the proposed wirless system would also effect the military's use of GPS as well. If so, it's no wonder that Federal Regulators are against this wireless system but it likely not just because they are trying to protect "our" civilian GPS system from interference.
 

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I think the second to last paragraph where it says that the FCC "would frown on setting aside too much spectrum as a buffer, preventing a new use merely to insulate another service," kind of indicates they don't have a grasp of, and don't seem to care that much about how GPS units are actually deployed and used by us real people at this point in the 21st century. But that's just me...
 

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So our Federal Government is going to help preserve our GPS system?

In that case GPS signals will soon not only become costly and unreliable, they will be declared a "right" so that we'll have to subsidize those who don't own a GPS.

Van Jones will be named the GPS Csar to ensure that the low-priced GPS receivers will have the same Nexrad weather and Bluetooth capabilites of the high-end units, so that the rich Goldwingers don't get unfair advantage.

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So our Federal Government is going to help preserve our GPS system?

In that case GPS signals will soon not only become costly and unreliable, they will be declared a "right" so that we'll have to subsidize those who don't own a GPS.

Van Jones will be named the GPS Csar to ensure that the low-priced GPS receivers will have the same Nexrad weather and Bluetooth capabilites of the high-end units, so that the rich Goldwingers don't get unfair advantage.

Glen
I am laughing at your jokes, assuming that you were joking.

Well, it was really the Federal government that put up the satellites in the first place, for military purposes. But once they unencrypted the data so that the public could use it, I believe there is a responsibility to maintain access for the people who have come to rely on it in daily life and work.

It's kind of like the internet. I was an early adopter...my first web browser was text only...not even a mouse. And I got my first email account about the time it was still not legal to have an internet business. And look at things now. How much are you paying for a high speed connection. I have no idea whether I am overpayting or not...I know it's affordable, just...but that's it.

I am still not convinced that they are not leaning toward the interests of the corporations that have bid and paid so much for spectrum. The most powerful "special interest groups" in DC are the ones with the most money, and that is almost exclusively supported by big business money, or sometimes the inherited money of people whose ancestors did all the business and they just spend it on their favorite causes...that usually drags in a little more of the liberal/progressive types, but it does not even come close to balancing things out for the little guy, at least in my opinion.

People complain about the government turning socialist or whatever, but it looks more like corporate socialism from my vatage point. You know the Obama Healthcare plan without getting the Healthcare industry on board....guaranteeing them the chance to keep making big money...
 

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GPS is screwed now. The Goverment is getting way to involved.

Bring out the old paper maps.

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OBTW, I'm not joking.
 

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Glad I don't use a GPS. With Washington involved, you bet it will be screwed up. Washington already has a 100% track record of screwing up everything they touch.
 

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Sounds like the "broadband on power line project", works with perfect system, but interferes with everything just about with just one weak coax connection! But FCC sold their souls for money, just like the feds selling the weather satilite services to third party people, to bill us what they choose. Tax money built, designed, and made system, but now we can be rebilled on system! One year subscription for comercial use, is more then a goldwing!
 

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Sounds like the "broadband on power line project", works with perfect system, but interferes with everything just about with just one weak coax connection! But FCC sold their souls for money, just like the feds selling the weather satilite services to third party people, to bill us what they choose. Tax money built, designed, and made system, but now we can be rebilled on system! One year subscription for comercial use, is more then a goldwing!
Absolutely correct.

Broadband over power line will screw up so much stuff that it is unbelievable. :nojoke: We -never- want this.
 
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