I just received my new hartco seat today. Took me about an hour to install the seat, bushings kept falling out, i finally glued them in, then the install went very smoothly, had a bit of trouble getting the bolt holes lined up but they finally did. Since it was 61 degrees here today in southern Indiana, i went for a ride. I was a bit concerned about being raised up so much i would be looking over my plus 4 tulsa standard. However this worked out fine no problem. This seat sits you back 1.5 inches, i love that part. Only rode about 20 miles but the seat felt very comfortable. It feels like you are sitting in the motorcycle seat instead of sitting on it.