Thanks but I was looking for the open face one just like that. I already have the Summit XPV by Vega and love it for cold weather riding. Now that it's getting warmer, I want to look at an open face one. I would ride with the chinbar up on the Vega except it catches a lot of wind that way and they say never to ride with it up. I would hate to have an accident and the company say they were without liability because I rode with it up.