I think some of you must rarely ever touch your throttle. I've gotten 14 or 15k out of a front tire, but never as much as 9k on a rear. The car tire I have on the rear now has 11k and might give me 1 or 2k more. I do like the throttle though. The most I ever got on a set was actually the OEM dunlops. Rain was a killer though. I can ride in any weather now (minus snow and ice) and have good traction.