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Yesterday at our local GWRRA meeting we had a guest from a local dealer. He announced himself as the new outside sales rep having riden for 35 years (since he was 5 years old) and currently races a (?) GXS1000. He had borrowed a 2006 Wing to come to the meeting.

After the meeting he went on his way and we formed 2 groups of 5 each for our after meeting ride which I had planned and I was leading the first group. My rides are almost exclusively on secondary twisty roads.

About an hour into our ride the tailgunner of the 2nd group announced a Wing passing their group so I advised everyone wave him on as it was safe and quickly he was passing me on a great road so............I fell in behind and we had a great 5-6 mile sprint to a T-intersection where he pulled over. To my surprise it was the sales rep. As I waited for my groups he agreed to come on our ride. The next 2 hours it was race ahead, wait for my groups, race ahead, wait (I figured I'd catch hell for this!)

I felt good about my riding, basically staying with him although several times it was obvious he could out corner me However I'm an old fat fart running a worn out Vanco 2 (41,500 miles - being replaced today) and he was a 40 year old in athletic condition.

Now for the "I don't believe it" part. At lunch he complimented my riding so I had to comment on my tire choice. He hadn't notice it and went to the rear of my bike for a better look. As I said I was replacing it this week he said "You're going to put a moto tire back on, right?" I said "No, why?" To which he commented "You can't get a good patch on the ground with that profile."

I give up!
 

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Yesterday at our local GWRRA meeting we had a guest from a local dealer. He announced himself as the new outside sales rep having riden for 35 years (since he was 5 years old) and currently races a (?) GXS1000. He had borrowed a 2006 Wing to come to the meeting.

After the meeting he went on his way and we formed 2 groups of 5 each for our after meeting ride which I had planned and I was leading the first group. My rides are almost exclusively on secondary twisty roads.

About an hour into our ride the tailgunner of the 2nd group announced a Wing passing their group so I advised everyone wave him on as it was safe and quickly he was passing me on a great road so............I fell in behind and we had a great 5-6 mile sprint to a T-intersection where he pulled over. To my surprise it was the sales rep. As I waited for my groups he agreed to come on our ride. The next 2 hours it was race ahead, wait for my groups, race ahead, wait (I figured I'd catch hell for this!)

I felt good about my riding, basically staying with him although several times it was obvious he could out corner me However I'm an old fat fart running a worn out Vanco 2 (41,500 miles - being replaced today) and he was a 40 year old in athletic condition.

Now for the "I don't believe it" part. At lunch he complimented my riding so I had to comment on my tire choice. He hadn't notice it and went to the rear of my bike for a better look. As I said I was replacing it this week he said "You're going to put a moto tire back on, right?" I said "No, why?" To which he commented "You can't get a good patch on the ground with that profile."

I give up!
I guess he was Somewhere Else at the time: In Denial.

I had a similar conversation the other day.
A fellow rider said that he'd heard all kinds of bad things about CTs. I smiled a said that I was amused by the fact that so many folks who ride CTs love them and the folks who proclaim the horrors are folks who haven't ridden them -- they just repeat what they've read.

His response? "Not really -- the article that I read was written by a guy who tested one and didn't like it."

I resisted the temptation to point out that he'd just proved my point -- he hadn't tried one. He just repeated what he read.

:shrug:
 

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Too many folks take the position of "Please don't confuse me with facts!".
 

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Let's just say his pointed little head don't have a good profile either then!:thumbup:

Remember, a man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still!
 

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Too funny ,thanks for a good laugh :thumbup:
Yesterday at our local GWRRA meeting we had a guest from a local dealer. He announced himself as the new outside sales rep having riden for 35 years (since he was 5 years old) and currently races a (?) GXS1000. He had borrowed a 2006 Wing to come to the meeting.

After the meeting he went on his way and we formed 2 groups of 5 each for our after meeting ride which I had planned and I was leading the first group. My rides are almost exclusively on secondary twisty roads.

About an hour into our ride the tailgunner of the 2nd group announced a Wing passing their group so I advised everyone wave him on as it was safe and quickly he was passing me on a great road so............I fell in behind and we had a great 5-6 mile sprint to a T-intersection where he pulled over. To my surprise it was the sales rep. As I waited for my groups he agreed to come on our ride. The next 2 hours it was race ahead, wait for my groups, race ahead, wait (I figured I'd catch hell for this!)

I felt good about my riding, basically staying with him although several times it was obvious he could out corner me However I'm an old fat fart running a worn out Vanco 2 (41,500 miles - being replaced today) and he was a 40 year old in athletic condition.

Now for the "I don't believe it" part. At lunch he complimented my riding so I had to comment on my tire choice. He hadn't notice it and went to the rear of my bike for a better look. As I said I was replacing it this week he said "You're going to put a moto tire back on, right?" I said "No, why?" To which he commented "You can't get a good patch on the ground with that profile."

I give up!
 

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did you ever notice how many people that are experenced mc riders want to argue and tell you how many years under their belt,, but no ct miles... I quit talking to them .. why should I waste my time and then be insulted..
 

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Too many folks take the position of "Please don't confuse me with facts!".
:agree:

"I believe in looking reality straight in the eye and denying it." ~ Garrison Keillor
 

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did you ever notice how many people that are experenced mc riders want to argue and tell you how many years under their belt,, but no ct miles... I quit talking to them .. why should I waste my time and then be insulted..
I always get a kick out of folks that throw out their "years of experience" I'd rather know how many miles they've riden. 30 years of riding with only 30k miles tells me quite a bit about how "experienced" that person is. :lol:
 

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Now for the "I don't believe it" part. At lunch he complimented my riding so I had to comment on my tire choice. He hadn't notice it and went to the rear of my bike for a better look. As I said I was replacing it this week he said "You're going to put a moto tire back on, right?" I said "No, why?" To which he commented "You can't get a good patch on the ground with that profile."

I give up!
I don't think I'm dreaming this but in riding with other DS'ers it sure looks there's as much pavement contact on a CT as a moto tire.

Yes? No??
 

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You really getting 40000 miles out of that tire? Pictures please:excited: I am interested in that one for my next tire!
 

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What he needs is for a darksider to just smoke him all thru a twisty road; then get his opinion!

They can continue to use the inferior tires if they want to; I KNOW a better solution to the wing's rear tire problems!
 

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I don't think I'm dreaming this but in riding with other DS'ers it sure looks there's as much pavement contact on a CT as a moto tire.

Yes? No??
More pavement contact with a BMT, (CT), than with a MT
 

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You really getting 40000 miles out of that tire? Pictures please:excited: I am interested in that one for my next tire!
I have 7000 mi on my second car tire......... Got 22000 out of a kuhmo rf. I am going to see if I can go more than 40000 with this tire. Not a rf tire. something to shoot for. gonna be a while before I can tell.. I think the tire I have now will outlast a gytt. I'll let you guys know in a couple of years.
 

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You really getting 40000 miles out of that tire? Pictures please:excited: I am interested in that one for my next tire!
This Vanco has 41,551 miles on it. I just took it off and put my spare Vanco on for my upcoming Sierra Gold trip which will be about 6000 miles and I wasn't sure it would last. I'm planning on putting it back on when I return and seeing how long it will last. It has 2/32 on center sipe and 4/32 on the side sipes and I know it's close to it's end of life, I just am curious how far it will go. What I don't know is how deep the rubber is on the edges.
 

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I don't think I'm dreaming this but in riding with other DS'ers it sure looks there's as much pavement contact on a CT as a moto tire.

Yes? No??
Here is the contact patch diff betweena CT and a MT with an 1800 on the sidestand.
 

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