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You know on a trike how they have to disconnect the side kickstand so it will start??

What if I put a switch there, so I have to flick this switch so it will start....This could be perfect way to protect the bike so it can't be started/stolen, even if the thief, had a key to your bike.. This switch would act as if your side stand was down all the time, till you flick this safety switch, so it thinks your side stand is now up..... Would this idea, help make your trike thief proof???

No one could start your bike/trike!
(unless they know about this hidden (waterproof) switch)

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The bike will still start as long as it's in neutral. However, anyone trying to ride it away would get a surprise and probably run like hell to get away from it.
 

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You know on a trike how they have to disconnect the side kickstand so it will start??

What if I put a switch there, so I have to flick this switch so it will start....This could be perfect way to protect the bike so it can't be started/stolen, even if the thief, had a key to your bike.. This switch would act as if your side stand was down all the time, till you flick this safety switch, so it thinks your side stand is now up..... Would this idea, help make your trike thief proof???

No one could start your bike/trike!
(unless they know about this hidden (waterproof) switch)

Ronnie
Great Idea Ron.. Wait a minute.... I posted this several years ago.. Should fill the bill..

A couple folks have showed interest in my using the "no longer needed" side stand switch function as an anti-theft device.....

This switch has caused several people problems so when I converted my first GL1800 a few years ago I set about to totally disable the switch thus removing that possible problem. While doing so I quickly realized it would be quite simple to install a single pole double throw (spdt) switch in a hidden yet easy to access location and when in the deactivated position simulate a side stand down condition and activating the “S” indication on the instrument cluster. Thus preventing the trike from being driven off if an intended thief managed to bypass the ignition switch and get the bike running.

I found a spdt mini switch at RadioShack, don’t remember their p/n, with a neutral (no contact) center position which add even another feature. With the switch it that position no ground it being sent to the either ECU input so it thinks the side stand is up removing the “S” from the instruments but when you put the transmission in gear the engine dies.

Here's the process: There are three wires going to the side stand switch. One green (ground), one green & white (ECU sstand), and one yellow & black (meter [side stand]). When the side stand is down green and yellow/black are shorted. When the side stand is up green and green/white are shorted.

I cut the wires just before the connector the Side Stand Switch is plugged into and soldered a three conductor wire harness between that point and the hidden switch. Green wire is common - green/white make contact when switch is up and the yellow/black make contact when the switch is down.

Depending on how creative your wire routing gets and all the other factors you can spend an hour or two but that should be the last of the worries with that pesky side stand switch (unless you bump it into the down position by accident)......

A major side benefit to having the toggle switch in place it that it does indeed simulate the side stand switch should you need to read the FI code. Simply leave the engine running and flip the switch to the position simulating “side stand down”.



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OOOPS SORRY Rush,
I didn't realize that you had already posted this question...[I missed it]
I have to thank you though, for posting the schematic, I believe I will give it a try, and do some RE -wiring.....
Did it work for you, using the hidden switch?? It must have, cause, you still have your bike..lol
As far as I believe no one has ever tried to steal it as of yet, BUT the last thing I need is someone that does try, and anything that I can do to prevent it I will do...

I do keep a large bicycle/motorcycle lock, that I put on the spokes, to keep from being rolled away, and of course I lock up the handle bars (front forks) and never park it so I can't see it (to the best of my ability/but we all know that can't always be the case/possible)

My next worry is how to keep this newly installed switch from getting wet and rusting out, (is there such a thing of a waterproof switch)

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There are toggle switches that have a soft rubber bulb over them to keep water out. I had one years ago that controlled after-market heated grips on a Yamaha Venture..
 

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NO Harm - No Foul Ronnie!! I think that post was before you joined. Not too sure of that but either way, It's a good mod and relatively easy to do. The switch I used is one of the mini toggle switches. It is mounted in the compartment with the gas fill. Tucked up in the back right corner. I have never seen any moisture get in there and Had the mod in my '06 over four years without any problem. When I sold the '06 and replaced it with my '15 the mod was completed while I had the bike all apart doing the conversion.

OH, I just went out to my shop a few minutes ago and confirmed the wire colors are the same for the '15 as they were the '06. Maybe someone with an '18 or newer shop manual can verify Mother Honda has not changed them... :):rolleyes:
 

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Side note: Does anyone know how to edit our posts in this new forum format?
 

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THANKS !!!! My fat fingers get me in trouble sometimes......:mad:
 

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some good ideas here that brought up a situation I ran into back in the middle '70s.
I had bought a Renault R16 hatchback ( prior to the term SUV ) and it gave us many years of fine service...

until, the Ignition switch broke. Priced that switch, was only available from a dealer, and discarded the idea of replacing it.

I fabbed up a panel below the dash and installed 4 double pole, double throw switches.
that way, they all feel the same, but if you did not know the correct order to preset them, it would not start and run.
the 5th switch was a Spring Loaded, SPST ( used for the starter )

That car gave us a lot of years of use, the keys were only good for the doors/hatchback.
I got a lot of fun taking friends for a ride, starting the car and driving off....... and no key in the Ignition :)

when we parked it, we just flipped all switches down....
 

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All good ideas and will probably prevent a thief from stealing your trike; however, here is another aspect to consider: I had a new 1965 Corvette that I was paranoid about someone sealing, so I installed a hidden kill switch. One night someone tried stealing my pride and joy and the kill switch did its job just fine; however, apparently the thief got so pissed that he couldn’t start the car, so he keyed it.

The bottom line is and it always comes down to the bottom line: at the time I had a $500.00 deductible insurance policy and the damage was about $500.00, so ate the loss and paid for the damage (which never matched properly) out of pocket. The value of the car at that time was around $5,000.00, had the thief been successful, it would have cost me $500.00 to get a new $5,000.00 car, instead of $500.00 for a poorly matched paint job!

My view point now is: I don’t have kill switches or LoJack, if my bike or car is stolen, I don’t EVER want to see it again! Over the years I have had this conversation with many folks and everyone seems to have a different “TAKE” (pardon the pun) on the subject, but this is my one man opinion.
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Hmmmmmmmmm! :whistle: I've NEVER looked at it, with your point of view! So now were back to square one, DO WE HELP PREVENT A THIEF or LET A THIEF GET AWAY with your Pride n Joy??

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I'd opt for solution # 1 almost every time!! I had an insurance claim two years ago on my tire requiring a total repaint on just the trike body. The other guy's insurance paid $3200. More than covered my cost to get it done!!! Several years down the road when the trike is only worth a few thousand dollars option #2 theory may be a consideration. NOT today....
 
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