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I’m glad to have found a great group of Goldwing riders. Hoping you can help me with an issue. I’ve been back into riding a few years now, both my previous bikes (Kawasaki Concours C14 with a Cee Bailey and 2013 F6B with a Madstad) were purchased used and had aftermarket shields and deflectors which made for a perfect pocket for me and my wife. Purchased a 2018 Goldwing Standard, Love the ride, the handling is awesome. Now here’s the problem. Wind Buffeting on my wife. A couple of stats, I’m 5’10 and 300 lbs, she’s 5’10 and average size. During our initial test ride the wind was rough, it was a windy day and there was a lot of truck traffic, thought it would go away. Purchased the bike, got home and the wind buffeting was still bad on a calm day. 1st solution - Slipstreamer T268C+4 Windshield, much improvement but still lots of wind on her shoulders and helmet, 2nd solution, Upper Deflectors - Show Chrome. Again more improvement but still getting a lot of wind on her shoulders and significant amount on her helmet. I can hear the wind very loud thru our intercom. I need to make this a good experience for her. Do I go with lower deflectors? If so, did anybody have any success with a particular type or brand? Do I go with something like an MRA X-creen? Again anybody have any success with a particular type or brand? Any other suggestions?

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I don’t ride much with a passenger because my wife rides her own, but an F4 windshield adjusted up, along with the Show Chrome deflectors, helped a lot. However, I still get some buffeting. What dbmachine says makes sense. If you hold a hand up around the level of the top of a mirror it’ll reveal that dirty air is passing over it and hitting your head and the passenger. I’ve considered adding the Baker guards myself.
 

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Wind protection on the new model is not as good as it was on the previous. As you noted, the previous was not great in stock form and many of us ran/run aftermarket windscreens. The problem with experimenting with different windscreens is that they are expensive. I took the chance on the taller of the upswept F-4 shields and it helped me regarding torso and face protection, but NOT with annoying jet stream coming through the odd mirror gaps. My passenger did not complain either way, but I am 6'-3" and 245#. I placed Baker wind wings below the mirrors, but that had o=no effect upon the jet stream through the mirror gaps, but are good for summer "air conditioning" and reducing wind on upper legs. I "think" Madstad may be considering production of a windscreen for the new model, a member here reported he has an initial version, that is promising.

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Do you have the windshield at the highest position?
 

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I'm running a SlipStreamer Wraparound with X-Creen Tour attached. You may have seem my post:

20" SLIPSTREAMER WRAPAROUND with X-CREEN

IMO the X-Creen does provide some added lift of the air up and over your head while still looking over the Slipstreamer and X-Creen. This combo is very close to matching the wind protection provided by the Madstad shield I had on my F6B.

Adjusting the X-Creen was very similar to the Madstad on my F6B. There is basically one position and angle where it provides the most wind protection. Once you find that spot, set it and forget it.

Every passenger will have different expectations. My passenger claims wind protection on the 2018 as I now have it set up is very similar to the F6B with Madstad.
 

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Doug, I'm the guy who bought your F6B. That's the kind of wind protection I'm looking for. Do you think the Baker Built Hand Wings or the X-creen have a bigger impact on passenger comfort?
 

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Has anyone tried the Laminar Lip on the 'Wing? I have a 2009 navi-comfort. To reduce the buffet I run the windscreen in the fourth position. BTW, I am 5'6", 160 lbs. This screen height mean I look through rather than over the screen.
 

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Doug, I'm the guy who bought your F6B. That's the kind of wind protection I'm looking for. Do you think the Baker Built Hand Wings or the X-creen have a bigger impact on passenger comfort?

Ha,Ha Small world. We had a lot of great trips on that F6B. Sorry to hear she is once again an orphan but happy for your new purchase.

I have the Honda Line upper wind deflectors mounted on my 2018. I and my passenger noted an improvement in wind protection after installing these.

Later I installed the Honda Lower Wind Deflectors which helps a lot to keep rain and cold air off my shins. My passenger noted no difference with the install of the Lower Deflectors.

Your first step should be to install Upper Wind Deflectors to see how much these help. Additionally, I suspect the effectiveness of Upper Wind Deflectors may be linked in part to the specific windshield being used?

To my knowledge no one has done back to back reviews of all three Wind Deflector makes (Honda, Show Chrome, Baker). If anyone has direct experience with more than one Upper Wind Deflector make, please let us know which one you found to be most effective.
 

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Doug, I'm the guy who bought your F6B. That's the kind of wind protection I'm looking for. Do you think the Baker Built Hand Wings or the X-creen have a bigger impact on passenger comfort?
DKSlim, Just realized from another thread you state you have the Show Chrome Upper Wind Deflectors that mount under the mirrors installed, is this correct ?? If so, what if any improvement in wind protection did you and your passenger receive?
 

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DKSlim, Just realized from another thread you state you have the Show Chrome Upper Wind Deflectors that mount under the mirrors installed, is this correct ?? If so, what if any improvement in wind protection did you and your passenger receive?
Huge Improvement, it seems the buffeting is narrowed down to her helmet area. I’m leaning toward the X-creek
 

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Ha,Ha Small world. We had a lot of great trips on that F6B. Sorry to hear she is once again an orphan but happy for your new purchase.

I have the Honda Line upper wind deflectors mounted on my 2018. I and my passenger noted an improvement in wind protection after installing these.

Later I installed the Honda Lower Wind Deflectors which helps a lot to keep rain and cold air off my shins. My passenger noted no difference with the install of the Lower Deflectors.

Your first step should be to install Upper Wind Deflectors to see how much these help. Additionally, I suspect the effectiveness of Upper Wind Deflectors may be linked in part to the specific windshield being used?

To my knowledge no one has done back to back reviews of all three Wind Deflector makes (Honda, Show Chrome, Baker). If anyone has direct experience with more than one Upper Wind Deflector make, please let us know which one you found to be most effective.
It’s not an orphan just the older child, haven’t brought myself to sell it yet. Waiting until I get the new wing exactly like I want it. Also, I love the look of the F6B, I finished blacking it out. only chrome left is the pipes.
 

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Huge Improvement, it seems the buffeting is narrowed down to her helmet area. I’m leaning toward the X-creek

Is it true that your wife does not experience the same "buffeting around the helmet" when on the F6B behind the Madstad shield ??

Just to clarify, when your wife says "buffeting around the helmet". Is this causing her head to physically "bobble" or is she referring to a "buffeting wind noise" ?? If it's a "buffeting wind noise" then as someone else mentioned it may have more to do with the helmet.

My girlfriend and I did a thousand miles from Ocala, Key West, Ft Myers Beach, Ocala in mid December. We were wearing Daytona Half Helmets and neither of us had any issue with "buffeting around the helmet" or excessive "wind noise". At Interstate speed we communicated by voice at a near normal conversation level.

On the 2018+ the passenger is seated higher than the rider. My girlfriend is 5'-5", taller passengers will tend to get more air coming off the top of the shield. I'm 6'-2" so she is not looking over my helmet and this may give her some added protection compared to if I were not as tall ?? Lots of variables.

Last winter I was holding out for Madstad to release a shield for the 2018+. Someone on this site was riding with a Madstad prototype at the time. But here we are a year later and still no word from Madstad. You might try reaching out to Madstad to see if they plan to release anything in the near future.

In my case, with the 2019 riding season approaching, I decided to install the X-Creen Tour on my 20" tall Slipstreamer Wraparound shield to see if I could provide a bit more wind protection for my passenger. I would describe this combo as the "Poor Mans Madstad". The X-Creen does provide added lift of the air stream over top the rider and to a lesser extent the passenger.
 

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Is it true that your wife does not experience the same "buffeting around the helmet" when on the F6B behind the Madstad shield ??

Just to clarify, when your wife says "buffeting around the helmet". Is this causing her head to physically "bobble" or is she referring to a "buffeting wind noise" ?? If it's a "buffeting wind noise" then as someone else mentioned it may have more to do with the helmet.

My girlfriend and I did a thousand miles from Ocala, Key West, Ft Myers Beach, Ocala in mid December. We were wearing Daytona Half Helmets and neither of us had any issue with "buffeting around the helmet" or excessive "wind noise". At Interstate speed we communicated by voice at a near normal conversation level.

On the 2018+ the passenger is seated higher than the rider. My girlfriend is 5'-5", taller passengers will tend to get more air coming off the top of the shield. I'm 6'-2" so she is not looking over my helmet and this may give her some added protection compared to if I were not as tall ?? Lots of variables.

Last winter I was holding out for Madstad to release a shield for the 2018+. Someone on this site was riding with a Madstad prototype at the time. But here we are a year later and still no word from Madstad. You might try reaching out to Madstad to see if they plan to release anything in the near future.

In my case, with the 2019 riding season approaching, I decided to install the X-Creen Tour on my 20" tall Slipstreamer Wraparound shield to see if I could provide a bit more wind protection for my passenger. I would describe this combo as the "Poor Mans Madstad". The X-Creen does provide added lift of the air stream over top the rider and to a lesser extent the passenger.
Yes, It is true. She does not experience any buffeting on the F6B with a Madstad. It is a combination, I hear the wind on her microphone, she feels the wind in small bumps to her helmet. I emailed Madstad but haven't gotten a response.
 

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Doug, I'm the guy who bought your F6B. That's the kind of wind protection I'm looking for. Do you think the Baker Built Hand Wings or the X-creen have a bigger impact on passenger comfort?
YES they do!
 

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Doug, Do you think the Baker Built Hand Wings or the X-creen have a bigger impact on passenger comfort?
In my case I ride looking over the wind shield at all times and found:

First best improvement in wind protection for rider and passenger was installing the Honda Upper Wind Deflectors. I have no experience with the Show Chrome or Baker Upper Wind Deflectors.

Second best improvement in wind protection for rider and passenger was installing the 20" Slipstreamer Wraparound shield. This shield provided a wider envelope of protection keeping more air off the arms & shoulders.

Third best improvement in wind protection for rider and passenger was installing the X-Creen Tour shield mounted wind deflector. Provided added lift of air up & over the rider and to a lesser extent the passenger.
 
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