I have purchased 2 bikes with out of state titles. One bike was in my state with a out of state title. That was my 09 gl 1800 bagger . I simply took a copy of the title and called the state of title to check for lien amount and after riding the bike closed the deal.Has anyone bought a bike (still under warranty) from a private party out of state? Common sense tells me to fly there to see it. I know they can be shipped.
Maybe the seller was competent enough to perform his/her own maintenance. Lots of horror stories about riders taking their GW in for maintenance. I read one here just yesterday where an axle nut and pinch bolts torqued waaay beyond spec. If they cannot get torque spec right, I'd lose confidence in their ability to ANYTHING right. I don't need to take my GW in to an, "authorized service provider", and pay big bucks for them to screw it up. I can do that all by myself, and keep the money. LOLPeople I know who have bought a used 5th gen, will almost always say the same thing. "That the seller said:"
- it is well cared for
- it is always garaged
Here is what "well cared for" probably means. It lived its life clean and shiny. That it got oil changes, brakes, and tires when needed. In most cases, it never got its proper services. However, if it was regularly service, the owner should be able to provide receipts for a 4,000, 8,000, 12,000, 16,000, 20,000, 24,000 ... etc, mile services.
Some of the questions you might ask:
- how often was the coolant changed ??? A good answer would be something like at least every 2 years or 24k whichever came first. For example, if it was a low milage 2006, the seller should say something like ... "I've had the coolant changed 6 times."
- did you ever experience the rear brake locking ??? If they say yes, that is for sure a Wing that didn't get its brake fluid changed at least every 2 years or 12k.
You should know, for various reasons, it is hard to find a well serviced Wing.
I agree. I DIY all my services. I also keep receipts for parts, and I take lots of pictures.Maybe the seller was competent enough to perform his/her own maintenance. Lots of horror stories about riders taking their GW in for maintenance. I read one here just yesterday where an axle nut and pinch bolts torqued waaay beyond spec. If they cannot get torque spec right, I'd lose confidence in their ability to ANYTHING right. I don't need to take my GW in to an, "authorized service provider", and pay big bucks for them to screw it up. I can do that all by myself, and keep the money. LOL
For me, it would come down to impressions of the seller, lots of questions and lots of pix.
Agree. With dealers, time is money, and if they can cut a corner, far too many of them will. Whereas, with owners, it's usually more a labor of love. However, sometimes the labor of love can reach a point of becoming anal. For example, my bike's PO used to disassemble the plastic in order to, "clean" the backside of the plastics. He spent a lot of time maintaining it, but very little time riding it. It was a 2008, with only 9,620 miles on it when I bought it last year. I fixed that part (lack of use), it now has over 60,000 miles on it. LOLI agree. I DIY all my services. I also keep receipts for parts, and I take lots of pictures.
I think you can tell a lot about the "quality" of a DIYers work by closely examining the bike. If fasteners are missing or gnarled up, or things appear to be sloppily routed, or the interior parts of the bike appear really grime-y, then you have a good idea that DIYer isn't careful.
I want someone to work on the bike who cares about doing things right -- not about doing them fast. When I work on my bike, I'm careful to inspect every fastener I touch. If one of them is starting to chowder, then I order a replacement. If I have to pull a part -- like removing the radiator to adjust my C14 valves -- then I'm going to take a few minutes and clean the bug guts out of the fins, and flush it with distilled water.
I'd trust a bike that was DIY maintained, where everything looked good, and the previous owner had receipts for parts and maintenance logs. Photos of services on the bike would be a bonus. If they did a valve adjustment, and the bike was shim-under-bucket, then I'd want to see a shim map, too.
However, if a owner showed me a dealer invoice for a valve adjustment, I would assume it was NOT done. I'd accept that they PAID for it... But my default assumption is that a dealer did NOT actually do the valve adjustment. I've seen too much evidence that dealers take the money, and skip on the actual labor.