Have you guys every try race tech suspension on your 1800? there gold valve set up. Just asking, first time. new to me 2006, 4300 mile
I was Paul Theade's test bike for the Race Tech front end. I shipped my forks to him in Jan 2005 and they built their first goldwing setup for my bike. They charged me the full shot ( fair ) and wrote off all of their R&D time on the invoice - extremely fair.svjam said:Have you guys every try race tech suspension on your 1800? there gold valve set up. :
I'm not a tech person. However, Traxxion puts a shock absorbing cartridge in each fork. I would assume Race Tech keeps the damper rod in one fork leaving only one cartridge. Two vs one is the reason I would guess Traxxion is maintained to be better. But like I say, I'm not a techie.powderhound5 said:I have read about the tractions system with interest and it seems to also be a fine system - though without a side by side test I am unsure how one can declare that one is superior to the other.
I have Traxxion on my Wing and put Race Tech on my Burgman 650. The reason I tried the Race Tech with the Burgman was the cost of the upgrade relative to the value of the bike and because the Burgman has damper rods in BOTH forks.ddking said:I'm not a tech person. However, Traxxion puts a shock absorbing cartridge in each fork. I would assume Race Tech keeps the damper rod in one fork leaving only one cartridge. Two vs one is the reason I would guess Traxxion is maintained to be better. But like I say, I'm not a techie.
I'm having Race Tech springs installed right now on my '03. They recommend the 1.0 Kg/mm for a guy my size. Here is their website.
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Some more info...
1.0 kg is not even close to the rate the GL requires. They recommend 1.0 because that is the stiffest spring they sell. If you actually follow the link that azjerry provided, the RT site cannot provide a spring rate throught their calculator.
On another note, Race Tech springs are always one full rate softer than their box claims. I have three digital rate testers in my shop and all concur. So RT 1.0 is really only a .95kg/mm. We have tested thousands of sets over the years.
It is easy to be confused or misled about spring rates. "Stiffer" has a negative connotation. Stiffer springs WHEN PROPERLY INSTALLED will have substantially less preload, and can often feel SOFTER than stock springs (depending on the bike). The idea is to have a spring firm enough to support the bike in high load situations like pavement dips, and sweeping corners, but be plush feeling under ordinary use.
Digger, t is entirely possible for the "right" springs to give bad results. We find lots of reasons for this. I don't know if you installed them yourself, and I am not trying to insult you, but I am being general here...
99% of people refuse to read instructions. Period. They just look at a pair of springs and say "I've been working on my own bikes for twenty years, and I don't need anyone to tell me how to install a stupid pair of fork springs..." And then they are unhappy....
Preload is very critical. Most aftermarket springs are not the same length as the original springs. A proper spring and spacer combo must be made. We have found people (Registered Factory Techs included) will open the box, and just jam whatever is in the box into the fork without reading anything.
It sounds like in your case, you had a severely over preloaded fork spring. This will take away the free sag, and exhibit the symptoms you describe. But it is impossible to guess at this point.
We have tried to elimanate this by supplying PRE CUT spacers for all bikes. We will do the same for the Wing.
I will have a spring only spec for you guys tomorrow, or Friday at the latest.
Digger, if you want, you can "try before you buy" and I will send you a set up and you can report back here how things go.