Too much prior direct, personal experience.
Rear wheel fell off
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My money is on the use of an impact driver on the rear wheel lugs during bike set-up, causing them to be over-tightened.
I saw the nose wheel fall of an F16 while it was taxiing for take off after the wheel and tire shop mechanic left the spacer out when he reinstalled it. Not a pretty sight.
I saw the nose wheel fall of an F16 while it was taxiing for take off after the wheel and tire shop mechanic left the spacer out when he reinstalled it. Not a pretty sight.
It's been almost 50 years since I worked for a Honda Dealer setting up new bikes. At that time, we were paid piecemeal. We never touched items that were installed by the factory and all rear wheels came attached. It is probably still the way.
I don't remember, but most likely, we were required to check all fasteners, but we didn't.
With only 1200 miles, it's doubtful the owner removed the rear wheel.
The first required inspection is at 8K. I'll bet the dealer/factory installed oil and filter are still present, so no reason to inspect anything.
But, in the ash covering way all manufacturers use, Honda Owners Manual states on pg 141 that all major nuts and bolts should be checked monthly. Something for the riders lawyer/insurance company and Honda to work out.
Like the #5 post states, it seems 3 nuts exited and 2 studs snapped.
I don't remember, but most likely, we were required to check all fasteners, but we didn't.
With only 1200 miles, it's doubtful the owner removed the rear wheel.
The first required inspection is at 8K. I'll bet the dealer/factory installed oil and filter are still present, so no reason to inspect anything.
But, in the ash covering way all manufacturers use, Honda Owners Manual states on pg 141 that all major nuts and bolts should be checked monthly. Something for the riders lawyer/insurance company and Honda to work out.
Like the #5 post states, it seems 3 nuts exited and 2 studs snapped.
I went over to FB an read all of the responses. The majority where kicking the dealer and suing EVERYBODY same as here. There were no responses from the owner. I've done the PDI 0n hundreds of units. Checking torque on wheels was not one of the items required to be checked. There is usually white or yellow marker from the factory showing the item has been checked in the factory. The truth may not come to light on this issue.
Possibly an overzealous/inexperienced employee decided to check everything, and put an impact on the wheel lugs. I just don't see it leaving the Honda factory with improperly tightened lugs.
True! Good point.I'm not going to argue with common sense, but in this case, do we know the owner didn't remove and replace his own wheel and put on his own lug nuts?
I too either do my own work or rigorously check the work of others. On earlier motorcycles I could do everything, but on these later, high-tech, highly-integrated motorcycles, there are jobs for which I lack tools, knowledge, or, increasingly, physical abilities."very doubtful," "less doubtful," "most likely" ...
"most likely" I will always perform all my own work after having been burned by shoddy work performed by dealer mechanics and having direct knowledge of friends and relatives who were told they needed expensive repairs when the repairs were either not needed or way over-priced. Too many people, especially female, have no clue about anything mechanical and get taken advantage of. At the very least when something happens with one of my vehicles I know exactly who performed the last service. Sadly for this individual whose wheel came off the dealer will blame him for having done something to his bike that caused the wheel to come off when the owner probably did nothing. Thankfully he didn't get seriously injured and hopefully his insurance will cover the repair costs when the dealer refuses.
I am sure a video will be posted soon explaining the faulty engineering at Honda that is putting everyone in jeopardy to this widespread problem. Followed by some new and improved Studs and nuts.
Coming soon from Maxxion: "My Studs Are Falling!"I am sure a video will be posted soon explaining the faulty engineering at Honda that is putting everyone in jeopardy to this widespread problem. Followed by some new and improved Studs and nuts.
Sometimes, the wheels fall off. Life is that way.
If I were to throw my guess in the ring, I would lean to foreign material between the rim and the hub. There are still 3 studs on the hub. If the nuts were tight the nuts would still be there until the stud fatigues and brakes or the rim brakes.
I would expect the stud to have about .002" stretch when properly torqued (just a guess, I am not doing the math on it) so if there was material thicker than .002 in there, once it broke up and fell out, all the nuts are now loose and can rattle off.
I have always made it a practice to wipe the mating surfaces just prior to install just to make sure there isn't a pebble or something stuck to the rim.
I would expect the stud to have about .002" stretch when properly torqued (just a guess, I am not doing the math on it) so if there was material thicker than .002 in there, once it broke up and fell out, all the nuts are now loose and can rattle off.
I have always made it a practice to wipe the mating surfaces just prior to install just to make sure there isn't a pebble or something stuck to the rim.
Never use an impact to install the lug nuts. Taking them off maybe. I always put them on finger tight, then snug with socket and finally use a torque wrench, crisscross pattern.I think that is the OEM Bridgestone tire. If I had to guess, I'd say the mechanic put an impact driver onto the rear wheel lugs when he prepped the bike for delivery just to make sure they were tight, and inadvertently over-tightened them, which led to two of the studs breaking off completely, and the others probably stretched or stripped.
Two words... X Wife.Did anyone else see this post on FB: (20+) Facebook
The OP has not said a word he is friends with the owner after they have viewed these post they may know what happen, but don't want to say and I could be wrong.
I don't know. That looks like an MC tire to me. Look at the tread pattern.Look at the tire in the back ground near the guys feet. The saddlebags are covering up most of it.
I kind of laugh to my self when I see everyone posting that the bike only had 1200 miles so no way the owner had the rear tire off already. I read on here all the time of guys taking the bike apart as soon as they get it. Heck some ride it right to another shop to have upgrades done with no miles on the bike. There is no telling what the owner did or did not do until you hear it from his mouth.
If the wheel assembly is installed and does not get put up on the hub correctly you can torque but it will come loss, because it tries to center itself onto the hub, the hub is the part on the bike or vehicle that center the wheel so it will run true.
without the owner providing full history, not sure some of these comments are fair....1) has the owner/dealership removed the rear wheel for any reason? 2) let the dealership respond - do they check (and how) rear wheel prior to delivery?
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