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I have been riding with an Olympia X-Moto jacket for the past several years. It is rapidly wearing out and I want to replace it. The jacket is 500D cordura and is relatively heavy. I have already replaced my original X-moto pants with a pair of Motoport Ultra II cordura pants. My first question is what material should I get for the new jacket? I am familiar with the cordura from both Olympia and from Motoport and it is OK for me. However, I'm wondering if I would be better off with a stretch Kevlar jacket with the optional liners. I ride from about 30 degrees to about 100 degrees. The stretch Kevlar is almost twice as expensive as the cordura and I really don't want to spend the extra money if it will not serve me better. Also, are any of the pockets that you can add to the Ultra II jacket water proof? I have a waterproof pocket on my Olympia jacket and really like it.

BTW: I get along pretty well with the tri-armor in the Motoport pants, so was planning to go with the same armor in the new jacket.

Opinions anyone?
 

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I have been eyeballing Motoport mesh jackets. Robeth and Glockjock swear by them!

Close, but no cigar. I do swear by my Motoport stretch Kevlar jacket and pants, but they are NOT mesh. I don't want to get on my soapbox here, but I do not want any mesh gear. The stretch Kevlar keeps me comfortable in all weather including 100+ ºF temps. I gave away two mesh jackets after discovering the heavy textile.

Aside from that, I DO love my MotoPort!

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Close, but no cigar. I do swear by my Motoport stretch Kevlar jacket and pants, but they are NOT mesh. I don't want to get on my soapbox here, but I do not want any mesh gear. The stretch Kevlar keeps me comfortable in all weather including 100+ ºF temps. I gave away two mesh jackets after discovering the heavy textile.

Aside from that, I DO love my MotoPort!

Glen
So you would recommend the stretch Kevlar over the cordura? How low does the temperature get before you add a liner to the jacket to keep from freezing in the wind?
 

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Be wary of the use of Kevlar in motorcycle gear. Kevlar is UV unstable and loses strength rapidly when exposed to sunlight yet does not change appearance if dyed or otherwise tinted. You don't know it's weakened by looking at it as it does not change appearance. Is one season's use safe, three, or ten?



The technical guide for Kevlar from DuPont recommends storing in a darkened location, away from doors and windows that allow natural light into that storage space, and from close contact to fluorescent lighting. How can the gear manufacturer know how the raw material of yarns, fabrics, and thread were stored in the supply chain before it was received?



Nylon and polyester fabrics are not UV sensitive and are manufactured into Cordura and Carbolex fabrics used by protective gear manufacturers.


When shopping gear look at the fabric material and look beyond the advertising claims.
 

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I have been eyeballing Motoport mesh jackets. Robeth and Glockjock swear by them!



Another one for the Motoport, the only thing I don't like about it now is that it won't fit in the 2018 Wing, oh, and I have the jacket with every bit of padding in it that you can get.
 

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So you would recommend the stretch Kevlar over the cordura? How low does the temperature get before you add a liner to the jacket to keep from freezing in the wind?

Depends on how long to ride; I add if it's 60 degrees.
 

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When riding I wear Motoport Kevlar mesh jacket and pants. The Kevlar fabric used by Motoport is a blended fabric, not pure Kevlar. Years of actual use have demonstrated that the blended fabric (unlike pure Kevlar) retains its strength even with the UV exposure a motorcyclist is subjected to. Whether a motorcyclist buys the stretch or mesh material depends greatly upon the climate where the rider does most of his or her riding. There has been extensive discussions in this forum on the subject of stretch vs mesh. The mesh material serves me very well as I do most of my riding in the northeast where riding temperatures can range from the high 90's with high humidity to sub-freezing. An important thing to consider is that the mesh fabric has greater overall strength than the stretch fabric. I have no regrets with my investment in Motoport Kevlar riding gear and I recommend it, whether stretch or mesh, highly. I often wonder why owners of expensive Goldwings with all kinds of additional equipment and modifications cheapen out on personal protective equipment. I enjoy riding too much to risk my ability to ride by using cheap protective gear.
 

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So you would recommend the stretch Kevlar over the cordura? How low does the temperature get before you add a liner to the jacket to keep from freezing in the wind?
I don't use a liner, but instead I add my Gerbings jacket when I get cool. I've found that there

is a huge difference between being "not very cold" and "toasty warm". I'm cold-natured, so if I'll be on the bike for any length of time I'll usually put on the Gerbings at 55 to 60ºF.

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+1 for Motoport Kevlar - pants and jacket.
My pants are mesh, my jacket is mesh with some stretch panels. Tri-armor in both.

Last month I took a 2900 mile trip from SoCal to Oregon, Washington and Nevada. My riding was in temps from upper 30s to upper 90s, mostly clear & sunny with one day of intermittent rain.

Base layer: 32*Cool boxer briefs & tshirt. Cargo shorts under Motorsport pants.

On cold mornings I wore Tourmaster electric vest and an old polypropylene sweatshirt. Always comfortable.

Never needed the rain liners.

When I got home I popped them in the washer and hung them to dry. Fast & easy!

It took me a long time to save for the Motorsport Kevlar gear. I’ve never once regretted spending the money.
 

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Close, but no cigar. I do swear by my Motoport stretch Kevlar jacket and pants, but they are NOT mesh. I don't want to get on my soapbox here, but I do not want any mesh gear. The stretch Kevlar keeps me comfortable in all weather including 100+ ºF temps. I gave away two mesh jackets after discovering the heavy textile.

Aside from that, I DO love my MotoPort!

Glen
Thanks for that reminder. I did remember you and Robeth swapping or talking about swapping jackets for a ride but couldn't remember why. Now I know!
 

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Mesh? Which one?

Motoport Air Mesh Jacket, I'm not sure if it is allowed to post a direct link.
Ultra II Air Mesh Pant (over pant)


and both of them are stuffed full of armor, I had them put every bit of armor in 'em so that it really isn't too much of a 'mesh' gear since they are blocked by pads so much.
 

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Motoport Air Mesh Jacket, I'm not sure if it is allowed to post a direct link.
Ultra II Air Mesh Pant (over pant)


and both of them are stuffed full of armor, I had them put every bit of armor in 'em so that it really isn't too much of a 'mesh' gear since they are blocked by pads so much.
Yes greatly restricted air flow is a major issue with armor, supposedly Klim has finally come out with some new armor that’s supposed to flow 5x more air than any other armor on the market. You can read about it here.

https://www.klim.com/Badlands-Pro-Jacket-4052-002
 

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JMHO the KLIM Latitude Jacket has armor and tons of vents-the air flow is adjustable based on the vents you choose. I use it four seasons, most of it in the S/E.
 
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JMHO the KLIM Latitude Jacket has armor and tons of vents-the air flow is adjustable based on the vents you choose. I use it four seasons, most of it in the S/E.
Is the armor in the latitude jacket the same D30 armor used in the NEW Badlands Pro jacket ?

In all the different armor jackets I’ve owned it’s only the back armor that has ever bothered me and it only bothers me in hot conditions because it doesn’t breathe well.
 

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I’ve been using a Aerostich jacket and pants and they work well.
Jacket is a Darien and pants are AD1
 

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@cycledude yes, the newest Latitude has the D30 armor; The Klim Latitude Jacket is ready to take on the world right out of the box. The versatile Gore-Tex 2-Layer Performance shell is waterproof and breathable. Run your own base layers and mid layers in the Klim Latitude Jacket's technical shell to meet the requirements dictated by the day's weather. Goat leather trim provides an aesthetic pop and functional abrasion resistance. Heavy duty 840D Cordura bolster high abrasion and wear zones to help the jacket last multiple seasons. The Klim Latitude Jacket comes equipped with CE level 1 D3O armor at the elbows, shoulders and back from the factory. Strategically placed vents flow air direct to the body to help keep cool as temperatures rise.

I found it's better to have a lose fit which allows air to circulate around the armor, restrictive fits=restrictive air flow. It's a jacket that will last me for many years from the construction & quality I see.
 

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I have the new Klim Latitude. It lots of vents and flows air pretty well. However it still feels warm when it gets to the low to mid 90's. Guess most anything would. I wear a 4x and the neck opening is huge. The jacket is very well made.

My Klim Induction is quite a bit more comfortable in the hot weather.

Years ago I crashed in at 65mph in a Olympia GT Air jacket and Air Glide pants. They held up great. I highly recommend the Olympia products. They were great in the warm weather and provided a great value.
 
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