How would one update it? At the dealership with a USB? I have a 2024 but expect its the 2018 maps but became curious about how updates were made.
Thanks, John

 

The 18 map was updated about 2 years(?) ago so I would think you have the newest version for whatever that's worth. I do like the little speed limit sign that showed up after the update.

 

I think they will update the maps …. not every year but occasionally. I think they will honor their 10 year commitment they advertise.

 

That's probably a good guess. I do however think we've seen the last firmware update we will ever get.

 

I did not even notice there was no nav on the 2025's. I was getting tired of the very slow web response (they must be getting hammered) and did not go looking for things that may have changed. I never use mine for routing, but I do like the "you are here" easy view map display. I guess they are expecting phone control to be your routing software. Just that I don't pair my phone to the bike, I get much more use paired to my Zumo. But what does that matter to me since I will not be getting a 2025 anyway.

 

Where does it say there is no navigation?

from the website:

Navigation
Every model is equipped with a big, bright, seven-inch, full-color TFT LCD screen to display routes and other navigation information. Plus, since it’s equipped with a gyrocompass, the system even functions inside a tunnel.
Standard on: all trims

To me that says it has navigation on every model.

 

NEW FOR 2025

• New colors for all trim levels.
• Apple CarPlay and Android Auto can now be used wirelessly on all Gold Wing versions.
• Given the widespread adoption of Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, the Gold Wing's native navigation system has been eliminated for 2025.
• "Since 1975" has been added to the Gold Wing logo that appears at the meter's "opening ceremonies" when the bike is turned on.
• On standard versions, a Gold Wing logo across the saddlebags and side fairings adds a bold styling treatment.
• A special 50th Anniversary badge is situated in front of the seat and on the Smart Key, commemorating the Gold Wing's important milestone (on all versions except for Light Silver Metallic).
• For model-year 2025, all Gold Wing versions in Eternal Gold, Bourdeaux Red Metallic and Matte Black Metallic (not Light Silver Metallic) come with two free commemorative gifts: a coffee-table book and a tabletop 3D 1:12 scale model. The model features a 1975 Gold Wing on one side and a 2025 Gold Wing on the other side.

 

I guess the web people weren't updated about no more Nav ....

 

ive come to use the bike nav as part of a whole system and have found it helpful. it sucks the new one discontinued it. i wouldve missed it. its just one less thing i would be able to do.

 

I use the Goldwing navigation all the time. I plan routes (usually fun day loops at a destination) on the Harley Davidson Ride Planner website. I've also used Myrouteapp.com to plan routes, but the Harley one seems a little simpler. I've found it works great as long as you put in enough way points (dragging the road over and then putting it back puts a point on the route that the bike will go through). I've actually been very happy with it. Then save it to a thumbdrive and plug into the bike. It's very easy after doing it once.

 

I do the same and it works well.

 

What's missing?

 

I wonder if Honda also made changes with the audio unit

 

I would guess software changes only........
Would be nice if that was true they offered it to prior owners. I'd load it in a heartbeat.......the stock GPS is worthless to me and wireless ACP would be nice.

 

I bet they use the same software package for the Wings and other Nav bikes as they use on Honda and Acura cars.

 

This is a picture link from the 2025 GW website that describes the Navigation system.

"Every model is equipped with a big, bright, seven-inch, full-color TFT LCD screen to display routes and other navigation information. Plus, since it’s equipped with a gyrocompass, the system even functions inside a tunnel."

https://powersports.honda.com/motorcycle/touring/gold-wing-tour/-/media/products/family/gold-wing-tour/family-features/media-features/2025/2025-gold-wing-tour-navigation.jpg

This Navigation screen does not look like the OEM Navi. lt looks like either AA or ACP. So yes there's still the TFT LCD screen but maybe not an OEM Navi. Honda's website is ambiguous in its description of the Navi system. Doesn't matter to me. I'm very happy with my 2018.

 

Is wireless CarPlay/AA a software or hardware update? Software should make it backwards compatible with earlier bikes.

 

There has to be hardware involved. To do wireless CP/AA you need a WiFi hub/router/server/hotspot or such. I'm guessing the 2025 would have an extra little antenna somewhere - possibly where the GPS antenna is currently.

 

Not everyone has unlimited data on their phones which would be a requirement to use ACP as your navigation tool. I don't have unlimited data and I like the navigation on my 2020 Tour to simply see where I am and not for routing.

 

Not necessarily.....
I don't have unlimited data and I use ACP and stream XM at the same time, the data used is so small it's not a problem at all.

 

I’m using a Carlinkin for wireless and it works well but wireless would just eliminate extra junk in the glovebox.

 

I like the factory navigation. Loosing it is a negative for me. i ride a lot of places that don't have internet coverage.

 

I don't use Android Auto much, so am not very familiar with it. Is it possible to plan routes through some feature of Android Auto? If so, can those routes be used to navigate if one doesn't have a data plan on their phone? Lastly, what is the benefit of wireless Android Auto vs wired Android Auto?

Thank you for any help in demystifying this.

 

Sete, I'm not an expert on this, but I asked my friends the same thing for Apple Carplay. They told me you cannot plan routes using Apple Carplay (like using certain roads to go in a days ride loop). To me this is a big mistake by Honda.

 

Regardless of the date of the last navigation update, the maps that are used are terribly out of date . The streets in the area around my house in Az are not even shown on the map. That development is at least 7 years old.

 

Same here.......If I used the Honda Navi I'd never get home! 🤭 🤭

 

Just like a lot of car manufacturers no longer include native navigation any more or only on high trim models

 

That's mostly GM and Toyota it seems from the cars I've rented. GM is doing away with Android Auto and Car Play...saying because of the connection issues

 

Don't forget, the loss of Navigation also means you no longer will get XM Weather Radar. That's a huge loss in my opinion.

 

Well now you know how they are paying for those 50th anniversary badges.

 

 

Having a built in Nav system means if I forget, loose, or damage my phone while traveling, I still have a Nav system I can use. I don't see how removing it saves Honda any money, it's already built into the current audio unit. I bet they just disabled it in the firmware. I'm not sure I understand their logic for getting rid of it.

 

No more daily inquiries about when the next update is coming. It'll probably save them a ton right there. And then not having to work on and distribute map updates. Getting out of that game completely will save them a lot.

With all the complaints about it they probably didn't anticipate complaints about removing it. 🤣

 

Same logic for getting rid of the trip planner.

 

😂

 

They would be pretty piss-poor anticipators then.

 

That was a joke. No matter what they do, there will be complainers.