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Are they ever going to do anything about the dangerous "Tar Snakes", that result from the inexpensive road patching done on highways these days.

I hit one last week and the front end of the bike floated a couple of feet before I got it back under control.

When it's hot, these things are almost liquid and when they get wet lookout.

Is nobody paying attention?

There otta be a law!!!
 

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Yeah, put the road maintenance managers on motorcyles, for a few weeks in July. Then there would be changes made. :D :D

later..Randy
 

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I asked about ways to help with these dangerous critters and someone suggested adding 1-2 psi in your D250's. I helped quite a bit.

Just put on E3 so not sure how they handle snakes yet.
 

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Randy, we went up to Brianhead this summer and we were floatin all over the road from the tar snakes. Lady at the front desk said they even effect her car. Tim
 

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I don't think we rate too high as a concern to the road departments. I am more concerned with all of the road debris such as truck tires that no one seems to be concerned with other than those of us that use the roads.
 

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Sure! there are lots of things us road crews can do bout them. We only have one small problem, most folks had rather bitch than pay taxes. There is only so much you can do with what money you have. I am quite sure you would like the alternative of not doing anything to them a whole lot less.
 

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When I come across large sections of road gator's I'll generally make an attempt to stop and remove them. After all, I'm retired and have little to do. I often get horns blown and finger gestures, but have yet to get a hand.
 

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galute said:
Sure! there are lots of things us road crews can do bout them. We only have one small problem, most folks had rather bitch than pay taxes. There is only so much you can do with what money you have. I am quite sure you would like the alternative of not doing anything to them a whole lot less.
Thank you for your response.

Short of more of money, that doesn't seem to be available, is there anyway that the tar patches can be made safer for motorcycles.

If anyone has any solutions or even suggestions for solving this problem, please jump in.
 

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I'd say nothing will be done unless a few of us end up dead. Yep, that's what it will take.
 

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I have a novel idea, but your not going to like it.....SLOW DOWN when you come to a section of road with "Tar Snakes".
 

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Aren't there rules about the direction/lenth/composite of tar snakes?

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I have a novel idea, but your not going to like it.....SLOW THE F&%K DOWN when you come to a section of road with "Tar Snakes".
Actually, I agree with the idea of slowing down although they creap up on you. The only thing I don't like about your post, and you have the right to insinuate your words, but your flowery insinuation word stinks. You could have simply said, "slow down."
 

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I wonder if they could put sand in them, how that would effect things ??
Slowing down is always good, but it's the times they pop on curves that gets scary. Was going up around Anne Arbor, Mi. last summer on the 4 lane, just moving with traffic at around 70 mph and the road starts making this nice sweeping turn and all of a sudden, the road is filled with the damn snakes. THAT was scary. Just ease off the throttle and try to miss them and hope the guy in back of you doesn't rear end you.
 

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Is it the thickness or are they slippery? I've only ridden in the southern states and even in 100+ temps I've never had a problem with them.
 

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Patriot, your right. I was out of line. Sorry. I worked a motorcycle fatality yesterday and I kind of lost it.

The product you guys are talking about is something called Krafco there are other products too one we're using right now is called Elastoflex. It is put down with a sqeegee at 450 degrees. It cools very rapidly so it is just pushed with the sqeegee and run out to length of the crack You would not want them to add sand to this product otherwise every crack would become a little speed bump. The ride would be miserable.

We do try to keep the snakes to a minimum width. We try for 2" wide. We never seal a large area that has alligator cracks because of what happens in the rain. Slick as snot.

The other type crack seal is sand and emulsion. It does a good job sealing but again it leaves a raised surface which causes a rough ride.
 

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Another thing. Most cracks in the road appear in the wheel tracks. Left or right of center of the lane. Just where motorcycles like to ride to avoid what we call the drip track. Guess where the majority of tar snakes are? Anyway I doubt this helps much but I have a crew of 9 who do this for a living....Among many other things.
 

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Here in Indiana the DOT puts down a small stream of tar in the cracks and then uses a squgee (sp) and thin it out and it is now usually a problem.
 

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Those tar snake are bad in real hot weather, bad in real cold weather and the absolute worst when they're wet. I agree with slowing down as being one solution but in those conditions the tar snakes are truly unsafe at any speed.
 

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I live out in the California desert and summer heat allows your tires to smear the tar on a hot day (>100deg). If you are riding near the limits of your skill and the bike's capabilities, it will really cause you to pucker. It is very embarrasing standing on the side of the road trying to pull your seat cushion out of your butt. :shock: :lol:
 

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I've never heard of anyone actually getting hurt because of them. I'm not saying it hasn't happened, but I've ridden for 41 years and have never known anyone who went down on them.

I've felt the bike step around on them when riding at a normal pace, and when riding faster than I should I've had them definitely get my attention. But I don't think I've ever come close to falling because of them.

What I'd like to see outlawed is gravel in the corners. Around here, they put gravel on the shoulders, and cars throw it up on the asphalt. I've know of several folks hurt when they hit an unexpected patch of gravel in a corner.
 
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