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Have you noticed that there is exactly (1)ONE Torx head bolt on the entire GL1800 ?
As such, I either need to carry a Torx Wrench for just It, or change the bolt over to an Allen Head ...the later of which I always carry a set of.



So then, you can swap out the Torx Bolt on the Left Front Brake Caliper ("BOLT, TORX (8X25)
90134-MAT-000", to the Delay Valve), replacing it with a SHCS (cut to reduce length)



The extra benefit is that with a SHOULDER bolt, the bearing surface is no longer comprised of THREADS, but rather a Larger Smooth Surface... which should wear better.


I safety wired mine, to make up for the lack of (red) Thread Lock that comes with the stock Honda bolt; and added a split ring lockwasher.
 

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AND THERE GOES YOUR WARRANTY ON A 15 YR OLD BIKE !! :surprise::wink2::laugh::laugh:IS THERE A LOT OF TORQUE ON THE TORX BOLT THAT THEY USE
 

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So you got rid of a torx socket and added wire and wire twist pliers?
Doesn't seem like a great trade off.
I was thinking the same thing ... but took it even further. I was remembering back on the few times that I've ever removed that bolt. Since I'm not a Honda dealer doing SB-23's, the only other time was on wrecked bikes from left-hand-turners. Somehow I don't imagine myself trying to fix my "wrecked Wing" out in the middle of an intersection.

The tools I carry are the ones Honda supplied in my tool pouch, plus anything else needed to support the few aftermarket things I have. Such as tools to install my BushTec spare tire. I also carry tire plugging equipment, and a Honda tire pump.

I find it far more important to maintain my Wing according to Honda's instructions then to worry about all the "what if's."
 

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So you got rid of a torx socket and added wire and wire twist pliers?
Doesn't seem like a great trade off.

I don't replace safety wire while one the road... If I have to remove it, then I figure the joint will remain intact until I get home.
(eg I just have to carry a pair of pliers to remove the wire; which I always carry anyway)
 

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...IS THERE A LOT OF TORQUE ON THE TORX BOLT THAT THEY USE

Nope, it's only 9 ft-lbs ...which to me means "Finger-Tight"... which is probably why Honda supplies this bolt with (Red) Threadlock already installed.
 

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Have you noticed that there is exactly (1)ONE Torx head bolt on the entire GL1800 ?
There are actually at least two, maybe more. The ABS ring on ABS model bikes have a smaller size torx bolt. The Air bag bike also use them on the air bag mounting bracket. Probably a few others I've forgotten about in other places.


I really don't think you need to safety wire that bolt. I've never seen one come loose, but I have seen the threads on the collar it threads into get stripped out from folks over-tightening it.
 

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Interesting. Just out of curiosity, what tools are the minimum that should be in the bike, or in my case, the trike?
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Alex,

Don't worry about the naysayers.

I've seen more "fixes" posted on this BB where, IMHO the cure was worse than the disease.

This isn't one of them.

:nerd:
 

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The only time I thought I had to remove that Torx bolt, I was wrong. I've never had to remove it.
 
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