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I know, I should ride my wing, not tow it. But.......We are trying to figure out a way to tow the wing behind a 5th wheel trailer while we go on a extended (a year or more) trip around the country.

I'm sure some of your have done this before. Any ideas would be appreciated. I know I can't use a lift because the frame isn't rated for that much weight.
 

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Not being a smartass here, but imo...if you are gonna be gone a year and want to take goldwing you need a motorhome + trailer OR a toyhauler.
 

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Try that. It attaches to the frame of a fifth wheel and is not considered a trailer. But check with your state to be sure.
Neat idea but how the heck would you get a 900 pound two wheeled motorcycle up that high in such a short distance?

To the OP
I agree that a motorhome would be a better choice for your plans. My wife and I are thinking about doing a similar trip when we retire. Our plan is to sacrifice the length of the MH a little and get a trailer that can carry both the wing and our Toyota RAV 4. I understand many places for RV's have limited lengths that they can accommodate.
 

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I know, I should ride my wing, not tow it. But.......We are trying to figure out a way to tow the wing behind a 5th wheel trailer while we go on a extended (a year or more) trip around the country.

I'm sure some of your have done this before. Any ideas would be appreciated. I know I can't use a lift because the frame isn't rated for that much weight.
This works for me. :thumbup:
And yes, I have pulled through states that may not allow double-tows (called triple-tows in some states) to be registered in their states but have not bothered me.
I hear that the states of Washington and Oregon are a couple that will though. I don't know.
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OK, I'm going to put my worthless $0.02 here. I own a 5th wheel toyhauler and at times transport 2 motorcycles using an extra trailer. It's no big deal and can be done fairly reasonable if you keep these things in mind (again my humble experience so i'm sure some on this board with say something negative).

1. You are pulling two trailers not 1. You need to check with YOUR DMV concerning licensing for pulling 2 trailers. Some states require (not all so don't jump on me about private carriers folk because read the first statement) that you have to upgrade your drivers license to either Class A or B. Again CHECK your DMV. I have a Class A with Motorcycle endorsement license in the state of Texas and tested with my Truck and Trailers. If I get stopped, show license, police say "have a nice day sir". No problems. I don't have to scale either because I am a Private "NOT FOR HIRE" carrier.

2. Check the states to see if there are any length or tandem trailer restrictions. Plenty of web pages and get the information from the horses mouth, not the horses ass (here).

3. Make sure you have a big enough vehicle to pull the tandem, breaking weight, electric braking system, and the frame of the trailer can handle the additional hitch. Planning and preparation is 90% the key when doing this. Make sure you have good solid mirrors that look down both sides of the trailer and any lanes that you might have around you. You got to see around you.

4. Make sure you have good weight distribution. Manufacturers will tell you that you need 60% of the trailer weight to the front of the trailer.

5. Practice before you get on the road. Make sure you know turn radius, back up control, and what is a comfortable pace with your set up. These are important because you can get your self in trouble real quick if you try to navigate tight turns or have to back up into a parking position. But, PRACTICE before you get on the road. Practice unhooking the trailer and how you plan to park the trailer. If using back in camp spots, you'll probably have to unhook the trailer and then situate the camper. Have your wife or SO involved and make sure if spotting that you both are communicating on the same page. PATIENCE is key here. Practice setting up your trailer so that you have everything you need when you get to the campsite. Level blocks, water hose, waste hose and connections, water hose gaskets, things like that.

6. Do your homework on campgrounds, fueling, trip planning on roads because you now are a very large vehicle. Take your time. It is this reason that if you are not using a deisel (not suggesting you buy, everyone read the statement) then finding gas pumps with enough room to fill up will be a challenge. With deisel, you can pull into many truck stops and fill up where the commerical trucks fill up. Drive in, drive out, plus a place to park. Plan routes around busy cities, large traffic areas, busy times of the day. Hell you are on vacation. As they say "No worries mate".

7. Go out and have a great time. Enjoy yourself and please make your own decisions on this. Only you know what you want, how much to spend, and your capabilities. The more research you do the more knowledge that you will have to handle any of the "Murphy Law" things that come up.

A nice to have but I'm not suggestion that you buy is a camera mounted in the back of the 5th wheel. Some of the larger 5th wheels already come with it and they are nice, but some tend to fixate on them.

I've been doing this for 12 years now and it is a great way to live without the a lot of stress and to see this beautiful country of ours.

Charlie Morse
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2008 Dodge 3500 deisel (6.7 liter 1 Ton with airbag suspension)
2008 Crossroads Crossterrain 5th wheel (39' 11") toyhauler
10' trailer with Class 5 hitch (overkill but my decision)
2006 Goldwing
2001 Valk I/S
 

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OK, I'm going to put my worthless $0.02 here. I own a 5th wheel toyhauler and at times transport 2 motorcycles using an extra trailer. It's no big deal and can be done fairly reasonable if you keep these things in mind (again my humble experience so i'm sure some on this board with say something negative).

1. You are pulling two trailers not 1. You need to check with YOUR DMV concerning licensing for pulling 2 trailers. Some states require (not all so don't jump on me about private carriers folk because read the first statement) that you have to upgrade your drivers license to either Class A or B. Again CHECK your DMV. I have a Class A with Motorcycle endorsement license in the state of Texas and tested with my Truck and Trailers. If I get stopped, show license, police say "have a nice day sir". No problems. I don't have to scale either because I am a Private "NOT FOR HIRE" carrier.

2. Check the states to see if there are any length or tandem trailer restrictions. Plenty of web pages and get the information from the horses mouth, not the horses ass (here).

3. Make sure you have a big enough vehicle to pull the tandem, breaking weight, electric braking system, and the frame of the trailer can handle the additional hitch. Planning and preparation is 90% the key when doing this. Make sure you have good solid mirrors that look down both sides of the trailer and any lanes that you might have around you. You got to see around you.

4. Make sure you have good weight distribution. Manufacturers will tell you that you need 60% of the trailer weight to the front of the trailer.

5. Practice before you get on the road. Make sure you know turn radius, back up control, and what is a comfortable pace with your set up. These are important because you can get your self in trouble real quick if you try to navigate tight turns or have to back up into a parking position. But, PRACTICE before you get on the road. Practice unhooking the trailer and how you plan to park the trailer. If using back in camp spots, you'll probably have to unhook the trailer and then situate the camper. Have your wife or SO involved and make sure if spotting that you both are communicating on the same page. PATIENCE is key here. Practice setting up your trailer so that you have everything you need when you get to the campsite. Level blocks, water hose, waste hose and connections, water hose gaskets, things like that.

6. Do your homework on campgrounds, fueling, trip planning on roads because you now are a very large vehicle. Take your time. It is this reason that if you are not using a deisel (not suggesting you buy, everyone read the statement) then finding gas pumps with enough room to fill up will be a challenge. With deisel, you can pull into many truck stops and fill up where the commerical trucks fill up. Drive in, drive out, plus a place to park. Plan routes around busy cities, large traffic areas, busy times of the day. Hell you are on vacation. As they say "No worries mate".

7. Go out and have a great time. Enjoy yourself and please make your own decisions on this. Only you know what you want, how much to spend, and your capabilities. The more research you do the more knowledge that you will have to handle any of the "Murphy Law" things that come up.

A nice to have but I'm not suggestion that you buy is a camera mounted in the back of the 5th wheel. Some of the larger 5th wheels already come with it and they are nice, but some tend to fixate on them.

I've been doing this for 12 years now and it is a great way to live without the a lot of stress and to see this beautiful country of ours.

Charlie Morse
Land Elephant

2008 Dodge 3500 deisel (6.7 liter 1 Ton with airbag suspension)
2008 Crossroads Crossterrain 5th wheel (39' 11") toyhauler
10' trailer with Class 5 hitch (overkill but my decision)
2006 Goldwing
2001 Valk I/S
Good advice landelephant.
Been there done that, Thank You.

Your typing skills far outweigh my own.
Thank You also for taking the time to list a lot of things that needs to be considered.
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There is a lift that attaches to the back/underside of larger motorhome that should also work on a larger 5th wheel. I've seen several on the highway on big diesel pushers. Think of a handicap cart hauler on steroids.

Wouldn't have any risk of running afoul of trailer laws that way. It won't work on my little motorhome, else I'd have one.
 

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Be sure to check state laws regarding pulling two trailers. I think Oregon is one that prohibits it.
I see triples often but on the interstates mainly. I can go find the statutes but if memory serves, yes Oregon has restrictions but does allow in certain areas and on certain roads such as the interstates and wide boulevards that can handle that type of traffic.
 

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I have a friend that does that. He had to get a 10 foot enclosed trailer to stay within the overall length limit.

And, he says, the enclosed trailer makes a nice "garage" for the wing. A year is a long time to leave something that nice sitting exposed to the elements.
 

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I have a friend that does that. He had to get a 10 foot enclosed trailer to stay within the overall length limit.

And, he says, the enclosed trailer makes a nice "garage" for the wing. A year is a long time to leave something that nice sitting exposed to the elements.
A 12ft. long (box) enclosed trailer is what I pull behind my 5th wheel.
My whole 'train' is 60ft, bumper to bumper. Michigan allows 65ft so I'm withing limits.

My thoughts are that if I'm legal and registered in Michigan, I should be legal in ALL states.
Of course I haven't tested that theory in Washington or Oregon so I could be all wet and end up in jail sometime.
I'm sure if that were to happen all my motorcycle buddies would line up to post my bail,..... hmmm, maybe NOT.

BTW, OrangeCrush, I checked into one of those hydraulic lifts like you can get for a motorhome, for a 5th wheel? Was told that NO 5th wheel frame is as strong as a motorhome frame and NONE are built heavy enough to use a lift to mount a Gold Wing on.

I'm just sayin' :popcorn:
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Oh, BTW, A CDL or any other type of 'special' license,... NOT required in Michigan. :wrong:
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I towed an enclosed trailer for many years behind various motor homes. Having the enclosed trailer is very convenient, as it keeps the bike clean and safe, and can be used for carrying tools, clothing, helmets, etc. I would not want to pull a double trailer because of the amount of planning involved, as well as the extra axles and tires to deal with.

Because of reliability issues we now pull a small toy hauler, and other than the cramped quarters when the bike is inside, it's a better combination for us than a motor home and trailer.

Try finding a lower radiator hose for a diesel pusher when out on the road.
 

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My friend gary used to pull a tahoe behind the 40' motorhome, and a 12' enclosed trailer behind the tahoe. He was a tripples driver for ups and still carries the endorsements on his CDL A lic. Only one time did he get stoped and the veh enforcement officer looked at the lic and said ok you know what you are doing have a nice vacation.

The bad points are 1. Fueling is a pain. 2. YOU CAN NOT back up, you have to think ahead and plan can I make that turn before you comitt to going into anything. 3. SOME states say you are only legal on federal hy or 1 mile from for fuel food etc.
We travel with two motorcoaches one 42' and one 45'. We pull two 4x4 chev silverado pickups with the wings in the back of the pickups one two wheeled and one trike. The 45' is just over 67' and has the turning radius of the queen mary so we have to plan ahead and stay out of downtown KC, Dallas etc.

It can be done and we have been almost everywhere on our two month travels to get to south texas for the winters. We only take about a month to get back north in late may. We have not tried to go to the maritimes or the far north east coast. We have found that Big rig Rv parks are a joke and almost no one has a pull thru that will handle over 50' without unhitching. Wives like casino parking lots and generators.

Good Luck Don:joke:
 

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I've owned and pulled travel trailers since the early '70s and fifthwheels since 2003. Also delivered trailers for three years as a commercial RV transporter.

I would never under any circumstances hang a 900 lb. Goldwing on the rear of any fifthwheel. Even if the frame didn't fail, which it would, you would shift too much weight off the kingpin and make towing unstable.

Have a proper frame mounted hitch receiver installed on your fiver along with a seven pin female RV towing receptacle for lights and trailer brakes and tow it.

I would use an enclosed trailer as others have suggested.
 

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Here is how we do it....

5 x 10' trailer with skinny toolbox across front. chock bolted to floor. use cargo buckles attached to trailer. Makes it real easy to strap, unstrap. now, if we had more funds, a 12' enclosed would be real nice to keep bike cleaner. We use a utility trailer for light weight and lower expense, plus we only travel maybe 3 weeks per year or so. a 12' long would allow a little more "breathing room", and a normal sized pickup box.
I actually engineered and built the hitch arrangement under rear of trailer, so far, no problems.
Have driven in Texas, OK, NM, and Arkansas with no questions.
Ideally, a toy hauler would be great because it is a bit unnerving when you can't see the trailer behind the rv. I have learned how to back it up on some level, but you can only see trailer when it starts to go bad. So, lots of back and forth to do it.:cool:
 

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I have a 5th wheel that is not a toy hauler, I'm assuming you do to or you wouldn't have asked this question. I haul a GW trike on this: http://www.discount-trailers.com/sport-utility-trailer.htm
They have other trailers that will handle 1 or 2 wings. You are good for almost any state that allows triple tows if you keep it less than 65 ft. Check on line for those states that allow triples (don't know why they call it that but they do). My hitch is rated for 400 lbs. tongue and 3000 max weight on the 5th, make sure yours can handle it.
 
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