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I get a lot of help from this forum. And I most certainly appreciate it. Some of you may have read my recently posted thread about my findings on my rear shock 0-25 pump-up test which, revealed the shock pump, would not change tone until it hit 16 on the scale, NOT GOOD. So, as usual, I consulted on here, also the Service manual (which was totally useless in this situation) and, good ole' Fred Harmon's videos. I followed all the informational steps and, when done, we had a much better ride.
But, in my inquiry, I also was asking about the bennies of a 2012 and up, shock. Specifically from a Trike take off. Well, there was, also as usual, a bit of debate. But, it seems that the folks on here that do work on Wings, and rear suspension components, have stated that the springs on the Wings, rear ones anyways, can and do SAG. They get weak. And, that going from a sagged, worn or higher mileage spring on an older 1800, to a '12 or newer with limited or if possible, ZERO mileage on it, is a good plan.
But, the experts also say, you really don't need to go to a '12 or newer spring. Just go get a NEW GL1800 rear spring of any year. Because it would be NEW, it would work just as well as a '12 or newer, from a trike take off. Well, in the days BEFORE the trike take off stuff got popular, one could pick up a '12 or newer, with very, very few miles and in some cases, ZERO miles, for around $40-$50 or so. That's a great deal. But, in my searches, including ebay etc., I'm finding prices hover in the $300 or more range and, many of those have as high as 17K to 30K miles. Well, what good would those do, if you pay anywhere near that much and, have that many miles on them? Not to mention, just how "Honest" are some of these trike places. By that I mean, you see a "Trike take off" rear shock on ebay and, it has SUPPOSEDLY 100 or, NO, or, 1,000 miles on it. Heck, all they have to do is clean it up a bit and it would look like brand new and, it could have 50K miles on it. And there is absolutely NO way to tell just how many miles are on it.
So, I have a question or two about options. I was goofing around on Wingstuffs site and came up with this:
http://wingstuff.com/products/3216-rear-shock-spring?from_search=1
It's a brand new rear spring by "Progressive". And, it's $89. The ratings/reviews are all great. Now, no matter whos official HONDA website I cruise around on, it always takes me weeks to get to a price for something. So, with that being said, I have no idea what brand new original, OEM rear spring would cost so, I don't have a comparison of the prices between that one from Wingstuff, and a Honda OEM one.
One more thing. I forgot who did it but, on my thread about my shock pump findings, there was a listing of shock spring loads for various years. And, based on that one listing, the shock spring load rating of our '08, is actually higher than a 2012 shock spring. Not sure what that's all about since, it's been said on this forum that a '12 is a higher load rated spring.
Aaaaaaannnnnyyywaaaaaay, our Wing, an '08 with a mear 32K miles on it, is in need of something to improve the rear suspension, even though it's considerably better now, after the rear shock service and adding of oil to the pre-load system. We ride two up, about 98% of the time. We're not road racers. But, we're, well, ahmmmm, not the lightest people either. So, I'm thinking that, the BRAND NEW SPRING from Wingstuff, might be a better deal all the way around. It's GUARANTEED to be new, with ZERO miles on it. But, here's another question. There are some of you that are like me, a bit of MacGyver instincts are present. In that, some of you have actually made spring compressors.
Some, have purchased them from various suppliers. So, may I ask, who's made them, and if so, would it be possible to get some form of plans from you? And, who's purchased them, from who, to get the best deal, on a spring compressor? I'm also assuming that, a spring compressor is a spring compressor, no matter who supplies it, correct? I realize that, removing the shock, is quite an undertaking. I've not viewed the FH video yet but, that's in the plans for later today. Thanks for anyone's help here. Very much appreciated.
Scott
I get a lot of help from this forum. And I most certainly appreciate it. Some of you may have read my recently posted thread about my findings on my rear shock 0-25 pump-up test which, revealed the shock pump, would not change tone until it hit 16 on the scale, NOT GOOD. So, as usual, I consulted on here, also the Service manual (which was totally useless in this situation) and, good ole' Fred Harmon's videos. I followed all the informational steps and, when done, we had a much better ride.
But, in my inquiry, I also was asking about the bennies of a 2012 and up, shock. Specifically from a Trike take off. Well, there was, also as usual, a bit of debate. But, it seems that the folks on here that do work on Wings, and rear suspension components, have stated that the springs on the Wings, rear ones anyways, can and do SAG. They get weak. And, that going from a sagged, worn or higher mileage spring on an older 1800, to a '12 or newer with limited or if possible, ZERO mileage on it, is a good plan.
But, the experts also say, you really don't need to go to a '12 or newer spring. Just go get a NEW GL1800 rear spring of any year. Because it would be NEW, it would work just as well as a '12 or newer, from a trike take off. Well, in the days BEFORE the trike take off stuff got popular, one could pick up a '12 or newer, with very, very few miles and in some cases, ZERO miles, for around $40-$50 or so. That's a great deal. But, in my searches, including ebay etc., I'm finding prices hover in the $300 or more range and, many of those have as high as 17K to 30K miles. Well, what good would those do, if you pay anywhere near that much and, have that many miles on them? Not to mention, just how "Honest" are some of these trike places. By that I mean, you see a "Trike take off" rear shock on ebay and, it has SUPPOSEDLY 100 or, NO, or, 1,000 miles on it. Heck, all they have to do is clean it up a bit and it would look like brand new and, it could have 50K miles on it. And there is absolutely NO way to tell just how many miles are on it.
So, I have a question or two about options. I was goofing around on Wingstuffs site and came up with this:
http://wingstuff.com/products/3216-rear-shock-spring?from_search=1
It's a brand new rear spring by "Progressive". And, it's $89. The ratings/reviews are all great. Now, no matter whos official HONDA website I cruise around on, it always takes me weeks to get to a price for something. So, with that being said, I have no idea what brand new original, OEM rear spring would cost so, I don't have a comparison of the prices between that one from Wingstuff, and a Honda OEM one.
One more thing. I forgot who did it but, on my thread about my shock pump findings, there was a listing of shock spring loads for various years. And, based on that one listing, the shock spring load rating of our '08, is actually higher than a 2012 shock spring. Not sure what that's all about since, it's been said on this forum that a '12 is a higher load rated spring.
Aaaaaaannnnnyyywaaaaaay, our Wing, an '08 with a mear 32K miles on it, is in need of something to improve the rear suspension, even though it's considerably better now, after the rear shock service and adding of oil to the pre-load system. We ride two up, about 98% of the time. We're not road racers. But, we're, well, ahmmmm, not the lightest people either. So, I'm thinking that, the BRAND NEW SPRING from Wingstuff, might be a better deal all the way around. It's GUARANTEED to be new, with ZERO miles on it. But, here's another question. There are some of you that are like me, a bit of MacGyver instincts are present. In that, some of you have actually made spring compressors.
Some, have purchased them from various suppliers. So, may I ask, who's made them, and if so, would it be possible to get some form of plans from you? And, who's purchased them, from who, to get the best deal, on a spring compressor? I'm also assuming that, a spring compressor is a spring compressor, no matter who supplies it, correct? I realize that, removing the shock, is quite an undertaking. I've not viewed the FH video yet but, that's in the plans for later today. Thanks for anyone's help here. Very much appreciated.
Scott
). Good luck and ride safe.
