I take it you have checked figures and know that some inlets require adjustment ?? (If not - check first)
Not yet. Trying to decide if anything needs adjustment to do it myself or not. I'm looking for answers to my above questions.I take it you have checked figures and know that some inlets require adjustment ?? (If not - check first)
Also ordered new feeler gages and a caliper for checking shim sizes from Amazon, and bought two shim kits (need two kits for proper sizing, one is even (whole # increments) and one is odd (.5 increments). Note: unless the valve clearance is actually out of tolerance, I recommend leaving it (if intake valve) and monitor for next time. Reason being you have to loosen the exhaust valve tappet screws to remove the cam to get to the intake shims, and buying a box of shims in both half and full sizes is not cheap unless you work on numerous bikes. Once the cam is back in place you have to reset the exhaust valve clearances.
I made my exhaust valve tappet screw wrench. Can always buy one, or use a very small ignition wrench.
Yes, I use a mic. Brain fart. And I used to calibrate them also...Please tell me you are NOT using a caliper to check shim thickness !!. (A micrometer is the correct tool)
Calibrating: I did that for the company for about 6 months back in 1993 or so. I remember getting yelled at by an old codger named Frank. I calibrated and adjusted his micrometers. He complained that they were "off" now that I changed them. I feared this might happen and therefore had talked to the boss about it earlier: therefore we adjusted them together. We both agreed they were spot on when I finished, and handed them back to said employee. As he went running and cussing to the boss, I was advised to change them back to the way they were and make a note of the error in my records. He said it was better to allow the crummy equipment than to put up with the crummy attitude. As it turned out the guy worked with rather broad tolerances on a lathe anyway, so the accuracy of his mics wasn't much of an issue after all. Memories...Yes, I use a mic. Brain fart. And I used to calibrate them also...
I wonder where Chuck learned that trick.I used a short screwdriver and a hemostat instead of the custom tool for relaxing the cam chain. Worked great. Screwdriver to release the tension and the hemostat to lock the screwdriver in place. My buddy Chuck told me about this and it worked great.![]()
Your videos did the trick Fred...I wonder where Chuck learned that trick.![]()
I also ran into the same problem the first time I tried to check mine at the valve, and in the end I decided it was better to just do it at the roller end.I had some difficulty when adjusting the exhaust valves on my 2019.
The 2019 service manual says you can measure the clearance at either the roller end (between the roller and cam lobe) or you can measure it at the valve stem (between the valve stem and the tip of the adjuster screw). It gives clearances for both methods. The clearance at the valve stem is double that at the roller because there's a 1:2 ratio in the rocker arm. So it should be more accurate to measure at the valve stem, obviously.
But I just couldn't get a consistent result measuring at the valve stem (and this isn't my first rodeo). When I got to what I thought was a nice drag on an 8 thou feeler gauge, I could tell immediately that the rocker was way too loose. Plus the carefully calculated mark on my adjuster tool (see above) just didn't come close to working.
After much re-checking and comparing with roller end clearance, I discovered the cause...
The end of the valve stem (red arrow) is actually about 5 thou below the surrounding valve spring retainer (green arrow).
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(The wider disk looking bit is actually part of the adjuster. You have to measure behind that.)
Normally, the valve stem is proud of the retainer. Because if this issue, there is no way to use a conventional feeler gauge between the valve stem and the adjuster. I ended up setting the valves by measuring at the roller and all is good but I wasted a good hour or two figuring it out.
So, just letting you know that if you can't get a good solid and consistent result at the valve end of the rocker, then do it at the roller end.
Hi ChrisI had some difficulty when adjusting the exhaust valves on my 2019.
The 2019 service manual says you can measure the clearance at either the roller end (between the roller and cam lobe) or you can measure it at the valve stem (between the valve stem and the tip of the adjuster screw). It gives clearances for both methods. The clearance at the valve stem is double that at the roller because there's a 1:2 ratio in the rocker arm. So it should be more accurate to measure at the valve stem, obviously.
But I just couldn't get a consistent result measuring at the valve stem (and this isn't my first rodeo). When I got to what I thought was a nice drag on an 8 thou feeler gauge, I could tell immediately that the rocker was way too loose. Plus the carefully calculated mark on my adjuster tool (see above) just didn't come close to working.
After much re-checking and comparing with roller end clearance, I discovered the cause...
The end of the valve stem (red arrow) is actually about 5 thou below the surrounding valve spring retainer (green arrow).
View attachment 421155
(The wider disk looking bit is actually part of the adjuster. You have to measure behind that.)
Normally, the valve stem is proud of the retainer. Because if this issue, there is no way to use a conventional feeler gauge between the valve stem and the adjuster. I ended up setting the valves by measuring at the roller and all is good but I wasted a good hour or two figuring it out.
So, just letting you know that if you can't get a good solid and consistent result at the valve end of the rocker, then do it at the roller end.
I can't really tell you how deep the slot is in the tensioner screw or the slots in the body. I took these photos with an endoscope camera which might give you an idea what it looks like after removing the sealing bolt and washer...Hi Chris
Your tensioner hold tool looks like a perfect option, but I am wondering what the measurements are and how deep that can slide into the slots. Is there a spring inside which can be pushed? And where are you buying the shims?