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I'm getting ready to change things in my front end. Which would serve me better......PROGRESSIVE MONOTUBE FORK CARTRIDGE KIT or Traxion springs? Please don't say AK-20. They are a good product but I won't even consider them because of the price. The Monotubes are as far as I will go price wise.
 
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I'm getting ready to change things in my front end. Which would serve me better......PROGRESSIVE MONOTUBE FORK CARTRIDGE KIT or Traxion springs? Please don't say AK-20. They are a good product but I won't even consider them because of the price. The Monotubes are as far as I will go price wise.

Tom, I'm not a peg dragger, but I had Monotubes installed in 2006 Wing. The difference was amazing. My present Wing has full Traxxion.
I like it very well, but for the price difference I would have to remind myself that I'm an old bluehair!

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I would think Progressive Mono-Tubes would have to be better than any springs.

I have had Progressive springs and Traxxion 1.2 springs and Mono-Tubes. I like Mono-Tubes very much.
 

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I have Traxxion 1.2's but I would like to try the Monotubes. Maybe one day when my ship comes in.
 
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Boomer. I've done both the springs and recently the PMT's. Monotubes hands down!
Yes! But you didn’t have Traxion springs. They come in different stiffness for different weight riders. I’m leaning towards the Monotubes.
 

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The advantage of trying Monotubes is, no modifications needed, simple installation. Then if you don’t like them try something else and sell the Monotubes. Traxxion requires modification and you can’t go back.
Personally, I’ve had Traxxion & MT and can’t really tell the difference.
PS: I never disabled the ADV and don’t see any reason to do so.
 

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whose better, Ford or Chevy, Honda of Toyota? :wink2: Just sayin'
For cars, Toyota reins supreme. They are also up and comers in the truck division but Ford trucks are tops!


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I used mono tubes for about 75,000 miles, yes when they were new the ride was slightly improved, mine came with a lifetime warranty, the little gas filled shocks eventually leaked and they would bottom out on anything more than a regular bump in the road. Contacted Progressive and they authorized shipping to them for inspection along with the original sales receipt , took about 6 weeks to get back a brandnew set of mono tubes, obviously I wasn’t happy waiting 6 weeks for something so simple so went back to stock and never re installed the mono tubes. Someone on the board contacted me about buying them and I happily sold them and have never missed them.

Boomer if you really want an improved ride I highly recommend taking a test ride on a 2018-2019, the new front end is very impressive, unbelievably smooth !
 

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can't do it ! Won't do it !

Boomer if you really want an improved ride I highly recommend taking a test ride on a 2018-2019, the new front end is very impressive, unbelievably smooth !
The Monotubes are as far as I will go price wise.

It seems this is mutually exclusive
 

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I used mono tubes for about 75,000 miles, yes when they were new the ride was slightly improved, mine came with a lifetime warranty, the little gas filled shocks eventually leaked and they would bottom out on anything more than a regular bump in the road. Contacted Progressive and they authorized shipping to them for inspection along with the original sales receipt , took about 6 weeks to get back a brandnew set of mono tubes, obviously I wasn’t happy waiting 6 weeks for something so simple so went back to stock and never re installed the mono tubes. Someone on the board contacted me about buying them and I happily sold them and have never missed them.

Boomer if you really want an improved ride I highly recommend taking a test ride on a 2018-2019, the new front end is very impressive, unbelievably smooth !
It seems this is mutually exclusive
I hate to spend the money for monotubes. :lol: I'll spring for the cost of monotubes and y'all pay the rest and I'll get the 2020 Wing!!! :lol:>:)

The stock spring sometimes sag in less than 20K. :frown2: My Progressive springs have about 45K and they are sagging.
 
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Monotubes.

Yes, the turn-around sorta sucks when they have to be rebuilt...but a lifetime warranty, versus ---
Yes that’s one way of looking at it but don’t forget after you wait six weeks to get your under warranty replacement Monotubes you will still have to buy and install new bushings ,seals and oil.
 

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FYI:: BOOMER!!

I prefer Linear springs and have the Traxxion ones that were figured out by Traxxion to be the correct ones for ME on my wing 07 with the info I supplied to them about my riding style and my weight.

They are right on and I have no sag as with the stock progressive or aftermarket Progressive. The engineering of the wound tight Progressive give LESS overall spring travel than a good linear. The two types were tested on a press and very easy to see the difference. and the linear, Traxxion shows stronger than the progressive by design and imho will outlast all the others. It gave my wing a better stance so I now can put it on the center stand with out any problem.

To help you make your decision, I would suggest you call Traxxion and talk to the Tech and get info from him, he will not try to oversell you!! they are very good to work with. They understand that suspension should be custom fitted to the rider just like a seat or tires or bars. And you being of the "MANLY"!! stature that you are! they will give you the correct info you need.

I just bought the linear springs and for my use they are perfect after about 10,000mi. About $130.00, shipped to me. I do not know if you can ship you shocks to them and they rebuild them, but I think you can?? , Just another option.. Hope this helps good luck with your choice and RIDE SAFE!!!!!
 

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FYI:: BOOMER!!

I prefer Linear springs and have the Traxxion ones that were figured out by Traxxion to be the correct ones for ME on my wing 07 with the info I supplied to them about my riding style and my weight.

They are right on and I have no sag as with the stock progressive or aftermarket Progressive. The engineering of the wound tight Progressive give LESS overall spring travel than a good linear. The two types were tested on a press and very easy to see the difference. and the linear, Traxxion shows stronger than the progressive by design and imho will outlast all the others. It gave my wing a better stance so I now can put it on the center stand with out any problem.

To help you make your decision, I would suggest you call Traxxion and talk to the Tech and get info from him, he will not try to oversell you!! they are very good to work with. They understand that suspension should be custom fitted to the rider just like a seat or tires or bars. And you being of the "MANLY"!! stature that you are! they will give you the correct info you need.

I just bought the linear springs and for my use they are perfect after about 10,000mi. About $130.00, shipped to me. I do not know if you can ship you shocks to them and they rebuild them, but I think you can?? , Just another option.. Hope this helps good luck with your choice and RIDE SAFE!!!!!

:surprise::lol::lol: I prefer the term: "not so petite" :lol:

You make it hard to decide. I was leaning heavily towards monotubes. 10K is not enough to know if they will sag. Most usually they start at about 20-25K. They do it so slow most people don't even know that they are wore out. Every once in awhile I have always checked my fork travel by holding front brake pushing forward and then after it has settled pulling back. Also as stated above it gets hard to put it on a center stand. I have put if off for awhile. At this time I use a 2x4 under front wheel to get it on the center stand. After returning from Alaska I notice one of my forks was leaking....SOOOO, now is the time, and yes I rebuild my own forks. Thanks Fred H. :bow: It sure helped the first time!!!!! That was money well spent.
 
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The advantage of trying Monotubes is, no modifications needed, simple installation. Then if you don’t like them try something else and sell the Monotubes. Traxxion requires modification and you can’t go back.
Personally, I’ve had Traxxion & MT and can’t really tell the difference.
PS: I never disabled the ADV and don’t see any reason to do so.
No modification is needed to just install the Traxxion fork springs. You're probably thinking of the full Traxxion AK-20 kit, which does require modification of the left fork tube.

Regardless of which you decide to do, you should plan on replacing the fork bushings while you have it apart, and inspect the left fork leg for barreling. I'd also highly recommend disabling the anti-dive valve.
 

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If you are of average weight go mono tubes. I had them on our 01 wing and they are vastly better then stock. Still, it had more static sag then ideal.
When it came to our newest wing, 06, I did 1.2k Traxxion springs and disabled the antidive. I picked the springs because I am way above average weight (300lbs) and wanted to see what a proper spring rate would ride like. They work great and the sag is correct.
I'd say if you are less then say 240ish go PMT. If you need a much heavier spring, go Traxxion springs.

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No modification is needed to just install the Traxxion fork springs. You're probably thinking of the full Traxxion AK-20 kit, which does require modification of the left fork tube.

Regardless of which you decide to do, you should plan on replacing the fork bushings while you have it apart, and inspect the left fork leg for barreling. I'd also highly recommend disabling the anti-dive valve.
Thanks Fred. I have already disabled the anti-dive with the ole nickel trick and I always replace all the wear parts in the fork.

If you are of average weight go mono tubes. I had them on our 01 wing and they are vastly better then stock. Still, it had more static sag then ideal.
When it came to our newest wing, 06, I did 1.2k Traxxion springs and disabled the antidive. I picked the springs because I am way above average weight (300lbs) and wanted to see what a proper spring rate would ride like. They work great and the sag is correct.
I'd say if you are less then say 240ish go PMT. If you need a much heavier spring, go Traxxion springs.

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The ones that know me know I am far from average weight. :oops: I am down around 81 lbs over the last year and a half. I am at 259 and plan on loosing another 40 lbs in the next year. But I travel quite a bit and I travel loaded heavy. So if I go with the Traxxion springs it should probably be their heavier ones.
 
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