Honest question here, I currently own a 2016 Harley Davidson Limited Low, very nice bike have had no problems with it runs good looks good and is well taken care of and garage kept. My wife and I owned a Gold Wing many years ago it was a 88 or 89 model year 1500, we enjoyed that bike very much but we had a move to make back in 1991 and we decided to sell it. We did not get another motorcycle until 2013 so we were out of the riding community for 22 years but decided to get another motorcycle.
We first looked at Gold Wings in 2012/2013 and asked for quotes from the Honda web site from several Honda dealers. Only one dealer got back to us (Sun Sports Cycle & Water Craft) with a quote and it was for $13,000 dollars over list price and that was with a $10,000 dollar cash down payment. The bike was $25,000 dollars MSRP minus $10,000 dollar cash down payment leaving $15,000 plus tax, tag and title document/dealer fees.
Tax is 6% were I live so that adds another $900 dollars bringing the price up to $15,900 add in another $1,200 for the tag, title and document/dealer fees for a total of $17,100. Because we were putting a new bike on the road Florida has an extra impact fee for the new tag of $300 dollars so that leaves $900 dollars for the title and document/dealer fees. That is being pretty generous for the fees.
In the above case the dealer came back with an out the door quote of just over $38,000 dollars. Needless to say we passed on that bike and looked else where and found a 2013 Victory Cross Country Tour made a deal and bought it, it was a good bike had zero problems with it put 44,000 miles on it when we happened to stop into a Harley dealer and saw the 2016 Harley Limited Low decided we liked it and made a good deal on it. We paid $22,000 for the Victory and the Harley dealer gave us $11,900 dollars for it which was just over book value for trade in. We keep our bikes in good shape and garage kept.
While we currently owe money on the Harley we are no where near being upside down on it in any way, the book values which are up dated monthly for Kelly Blue Book, NADA and Black Book and all three are very close in their values for our bike.
When Honda came out with the new 2018 Gold Wing Tour we liked what Honda has done, first thing we did when we went to Haps Honda in Sarasota, Florida was to take in our full face helmets and make sure they would both fit into the truck and in our case both helmets did fit so we were a go to make a deal to trade in our 2016 Harley Limited Low on a new 2018 Honda Gold Wing Tour DCT, the MSRP on the Honda was $28,000 dollars.
Talked to the elderly man about the bike in the showroom for a few minutes about the Gold Wing and he asked if we were ready to buy it and I said yes if we can make a deal on our 2016 Harley.
That is where it all went down hill immediately, first words out of his mouth were you can't sell Harleys they are the worst bike out there, I don't even want to give you a quote because it will insult you. Clearly Haps Honda did not want to take a trade in on there $28,000 dollar motorcycle unless they could get the trade for next to nothing. The guy just kept going on trashing Harley's.
I stopped him at that point told him clearly we won't be able to make a deal and I did not want to waste his time or my time and thanked him and turned to leave, but he kept on and on about the Harley and trying to get me to buy the Honda and I had to tell the man a good four times that clearly we were not going to be able to make a deal and that I did not want to waste his time or my time when he clearly had no interest in taking my Harley as a trade in.
Long story short that makes my last two interactions with two different Honda motorcycle dears not being pleasant experiences, the first dealer attempting to way over charge me and the second dealer just not even trying to make the sale. The last thing a customer wants to hear is the sales person start off by putting down and making up 101 excuses why your trade is not worth a dime. I don't go in wanting retail money for my trades but I do expect to get trade in value for my trades and have always gotten the top of the trade in value on our vehicles/motorcycles. We do take good care of them keeping them serviced and waxed/detailed and in good shape.
We have bought vehicles at dealers and before we were done with the paper work the dealers have sold some of our trade ins. That is how good of care we take of our vehicles.
While I would love to purchase one of the new 2018 Gold Wing Tours with the DCT I refuse to be taken advantage of and will walk every time.
Sorry for venting about this but we have really tried to purchase a Gold Wing twice now in the past 5 years only to be insulted by both Honda dealers. Not a good way to grow market share.
We are not brand snobs when it comes to our vehicles so we are not locked into anyone brand, anyone have any similar experiences or dealers that are fair to deal with?
There is a new Indian dealer that is going to be opening in Ft. Myers soon so maybe if they want to take trades at fair trade value we will purchase an Indian Road Master.
We first looked at Gold Wings in 2012/2013 and asked for quotes from the Honda web site from several Honda dealers. Only one dealer got back to us (Sun Sports Cycle & Water Craft) with a quote and it was for $13,000 dollars over list price and that was with a $10,000 dollar cash down payment. The bike was $25,000 dollars MSRP minus $10,000 dollar cash down payment leaving $15,000 plus tax, tag and title document/dealer fees.
Tax is 6% were I live so that adds another $900 dollars bringing the price up to $15,900 add in another $1,200 for the tag, title and document/dealer fees for a total of $17,100. Because we were putting a new bike on the road Florida has an extra impact fee for the new tag of $300 dollars so that leaves $900 dollars for the title and document/dealer fees. That is being pretty generous for the fees.
In the above case the dealer came back with an out the door quote of just over $38,000 dollars. Needless to say we passed on that bike and looked else where and found a 2013 Victory Cross Country Tour made a deal and bought it, it was a good bike had zero problems with it put 44,000 miles on it when we happened to stop into a Harley dealer and saw the 2016 Harley Limited Low decided we liked it and made a good deal on it. We paid $22,000 for the Victory and the Harley dealer gave us $11,900 dollars for it which was just over book value for trade in. We keep our bikes in good shape and garage kept.
While we currently owe money on the Harley we are no where near being upside down on it in any way, the book values which are up dated monthly for Kelly Blue Book, NADA and Black Book and all three are very close in their values for our bike.
When Honda came out with the new 2018 Gold Wing Tour we liked what Honda has done, first thing we did when we went to Haps Honda in Sarasota, Florida was to take in our full face helmets and make sure they would both fit into the truck and in our case both helmets did fit so we were a go to make a deal to trade in our 2016 Harley Limited Low on a new 2018 Honda Gold Wing Tour DCT, the MSRP on the Honda was $28,000 dollars.
Talked to the elderly man about the bike in the showroom for a few minutes about the Gold Wing and he asked if we were ready to buy it and I said yes if we can make a deal on our 2016 Harley.
That is where it all went down hill immediately, first words out of his mouth were you can't sell Harleys they are the worst bike out there, I don't even want to give you a quote because it will insult you. Clearly Haps Honda did not want to take a trade in on there $28,000 dollar motorcycle unless they could get the trade for next to nothing. The guy just kept going on trashing Harley's.
I stopped him at that point told him clearly we won't be able to make a deal and I did not want to waste his time or my time and thanked him and turned to leave, but he kept on and on about the Harley and trying to get me to buy the Honda and I had to tell the man a good four times that clearly we were not going to be able to make a deal and that I did not want to waste his time or my time when he clearly had no interest in taking my Harley as a trade in.
Long story short that makes my last two interactions with two different Honda motorcycle dears not being pleasant experiences, the first dealer attempting to way over charge me and the second dealer just not even trying to make the sale. The last thing a customer wants to hear is the sales person start off by putting down and making up 101 excuses why your trade is not worth a dime. I don't go in wanting retail money for my trades but I do expect to get trade in value for my trades and have always gotten the top of the trade in value on our vehicles/motorcycles. We do take good care of them keeping them serviced and waxed/detailed and in good shape.
We have bought vehicles at dealers and before we were done with the paper work the dealers have sold some of our trade ins. That is how good of care we take of our vehicles.
While I would love to purchase one of the new 2018 Gold Wing Tours with the DCT I refuse to be taken advantage of and will walk every time.
Sorry for venting about this but we have really tried to purchase a Gold Wing twice now in the past 5 years only to be insulted by both Honda dealers. Not a good way to grow market share.
We are not brand snobs when it comes to our vehicles so we are not locked into anyone brand, anyone have any similar experiences or dealers that are fair to deal with?
There is a new Indian dealer that is going to be opening in Ft. Myers soon so maybe if they want to take trades at fair trade value we will purchase an Indian Road Master.
