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Windbender from Firecreek, it is so nice to look over the shield when riding especially in the rain. Tall windshields when gakked up with rain and road dirt are distracting. It makes it difficult to pick a line in the curves. At night its even worse. I've been caught in snow flurries which totally obscure the shield forcing you to stand up or lean way over just to see. :wrong: Much much much better to just always look over and only have to deal with my visor.
 
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Please excuse my lack of knowledge, but I see the reference to th F4 windshield and would like to know who makes it.

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Cleaview and F4

DHawk, you mentioned negative comments about the F4 but no one has responded negatively. Everyone seems to like it a lot.

I've got experience with the Clearview. I had it on my Voyager XII for 3 years. It was a very good windshield. I always cleaned it with Honda spray polish and it never scratched. I had the vent option and hated it. It was loose so I fixed that, the little ball fell out of the ratchet lever and I fixed that. It's a real bug catcher. Think about it. Every bug that hits your windshield is 10 times harder to clean when it splats inside the vent louvers. When it rained, the vent let water in and it did crazy things. I guess that's enough negative about the vent. Some people love them so to each his own.

I've decided to try the F4 +4 for my 2002 Wing (We sold the Voyager last year and bought the wing...what a great upgrade. My wife and I love the wing). I won't be able to test it for another couple months at least (Buffalo NY) but I decided to get it without the vent. I don't think I'll regret it after the problems I had for 3 years with the same vent on the Clearview shield.

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DHawk, you mentioned negative comments about the F4 but no one has responded negatively. Everyone seems to like it a lot.

I've got experience with the Clearview. I had it on my Voyager XII for 3 years. It was a very good windshield. I always cleaned it with Honda spray polish and it never scratched. I had the vent option and hated it. It was loose so I fixed that, the little ball fell out of the ratchet lever and I fixed that. It's a real bug catcher. Think about it. Every bug that hits your windshield is 10 times harder to clean when it splats inside the vent louvers. When it rained, the vent let water in and it did crazy things. I guess that's enough negative about the vent. Some people love them so to each his own.

I've decided to try the F4 +4 for my 2002 Wing (We sold the Voyager last year and bought the wing...what a great upgrade. My wife and I love the wing). I won't be able to test it for another couple months at least (Buffalo NY) but I decided to get it without the vent. I don't think I'll regret it after the problems I had for 3 years with the same vent on the Clearview shield.

Wayne
Wayne,

The negative comments I was referring to was on another website I used to research windshields.
Thanks for the input.

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Well I dropped my GL1800 off the jack today and broke the windshield.

Now I need to purchase a new windshield.:cry:
1. Had a Cee Bailey which was OK but their service sucked and I had a lot of swirl marks.
2. Had a Tulsa tall and thought it looked dorkey and was not pleased with it.
3. Windbender is too expensive although I like the Idea.
4. The F4 sounds neat but have read some negative reviews about them.
5. Anyone have the Clearview Windshield?

So I'm open to suggestions from your experience with different windshields.
If you like scratches & swirls & driving into the sun blind buy any windshield other than a F4. No matter how careful you are cleaning it they will scratch and at some point you will decide to replace it. If you make it home that day.
 

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You should join the club and go without a windshield.... I plan on taking mine off totally as soon as the weather turns... and running without one... to me having a motorcycle has always been about feeling the wind.... then again, that's probaby my youth speaking as I'd put money on being one of the youngest members of this forum...
 

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If you like scratches & swirls & driving into the sun blind buy any windshield other than a F4. No matter how careful you are cleaning it they will scratch and at some point you will decide to replace it. If you make it home that day.
LOL, Schnidly, I seem to have picked on your posts in the past few threads. It's not intentional, I assure you.

I don't doubt the benefits of the F4, but I just don't agree with the extent of your comment. The OEM windshield, if properly cared for, can last the life of the bike. Even if you abuse it, as I have with my OEM+2, it will give a good 7 or 8 years of good service.

Considering that the F4 costs twice as much as the OEM, I can install two OEM windshields for the same price, giving me 14 years or more. Not too many people own their Wings for that amount of time, so when you think about it, when it comes to price versus performance, the two end up being about equal. If you don't hang on to your bike more than 4 or 5 years, the OEM is undoubtedly the better value. (I'm not concerned with how long it lasts after I sell the bike.)

I am NOT saying that people should stay away from the F4. I'm just saying that the drawbacks of other windshields is not nearly as dire as you suggest it is. There are a number of hard coated Lexan windshields out there that have good scratch resistance for half the price, and they are a viable option.
 

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Former '01 GW. Stock OEM windshield. After rain-ride, in garage, my wet boot-sole slipped off the centerstand pad while putting bike up on c-stend. Bike leaned to the right, away from me, and over she went. Halfway, that is . . .

The right edge of windshield caught the edge of my workbench. 900+ lbs of motorcycly weight being supported by the right edge of windshield, bike at a radical lean angle but crash bars not in ground contact. Radical bend in shield. That sucker looked like it was almost folded in half . . .

For a millisecond or 2, I'm eyeballing that and waiting for the windshield to just explode like the Universal Big Bang. Never happened. Picked the bike back upright, and you'd never even know it happened.

That '01 went to Honda Heaven as a result of me getting literally French-Kissed in the face by an already-airborne Bambi midway theough a sweeper curve at 55 MPH. The windshield was one of the few Tupperware parts on the bike that DIDN'T break. Amazing stuff, that OEM Lexan.

As far as swirls, whorls, and scratches, on multiple GW OEM windshiields I've had excellent results via never using anything on them except PLEXUS spray polish-cleaner. Above & beyond how well it works, what I really like about Plexus is that just a little bit . just a very light mist spray - goes a long, long way.

I started using Plexus when I noted a helmet face shield manufacturer recommended using nothing but Plexus on the faceshield. Worked so well I've never used anything else since on anything clear "plastic" that I might hafta look through.

FWIW to any possible "newbies", the faceshield manufacturer also emphatically stated NEVER EVER use paper towels to clean or dry any windshield or faceshield. The nitrocellulose in any paper product will create swirl scratches itself. Recommendation was not to use anything except a soft terrycloth. And always clean-polish-wipe in the same linear direction - (either) up-down (or) side-to-side - but never both. And especially not in a circular fashion.

I see guys all the time using those high-tech "microfiber" cloths on their windshields. You know, the cloths that clean chrome & paint so nice 'cause they pick up so much surface diirt and trap./hold it in the microfiber pores. Might as well be playing tic-tac-toe on your windshield with sandpaper.

I guess I'm lucky, too, in that I'm height-challenged at 5'6" tall. Lowest position of stock OEM shield puts me looking just over the top of it, with very little wind buffeting at all. AKA "Just Perfect".

What a bummer - breaking a shield as a result of dropping off a lift jack. Hey, "look on the bright side". Better breaking your windshieed than your ANKLE.

Classic example of the cliche that "things (and the bike) could just as easily have gone the other way" - toward ya, instead of away from ya.

Safety Straps during Lift-Jacking are a loving Huggy-Bear to your Wing, as well as your own limbs, for sure !

I'm real glad it's only your Windshield and your Wallet that had to pay the price of that one.

Kudos and Congrats and Respect to anyone who freely self-admits a litle mistake in a public forum, thereby lending a very helpful Reminder that helps other learn or Relember things the "Easy Way", from someone else's experience, instead of the Hard Way, in their own experiennce.

Best Wishes & Good Luck in your hunt for a new windshield that makes ya happy.
 

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then again, that's probaby my youth speaking as I'd put money on being one of the youngest members of this forum...
Ok.. I will bite -- how old are you?

On the shield -- There's no way in heck that my bike will last 14 or 15 years.

I have almost 96,ooo miles on her now in less than 2 years.

F4 for me, thank you.

They're the only company I have seen with a windshield wiper wrapped in shredded stainless steel going to town for thousands of hours on end. Find em at a rally and you will see what I mean.

I LOVE my F4! I can use durn near anything I want on it. Paper towels, gas station windshield cleaning tools, water, RAIN X!!!

Did I mention I LOVE my F4?

btw - the vent does NOT rattle in my F4.
 

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Mcrider, in support of the F4, it it probably one of the only shields out there that you actually can clean with paper towels without damaging the surface. The material they use was originally designed for race cars.

The microfiber vs terry cloth debate is kind of a double edged sword. If you are cleaning your shield, it is obviously dirty. Microfiber picks up that dirt and traps in inside the fibers where is less likely to cause any harm. With other towels, you either just spread that dirt around, or it attaches to the surface of the towel, where it can cause damage. You could easily make an argument either way for either type of towel. You are right about one thing though. You have to be very careful when using microfiber towels. They are like magnets to debris.

The reason I like microfiber is because you need less wiping to clean the shield. The less you have to wipe the windshield, the less chance you have of scratching it. Of course, if someone is an animal and doesn't take any care when they clean, or if they don't clean their towels, they could probably scratch a windshield no matter what kind of a towel they used.:lol:

Alan from Tulsa recommends against microfiber towels also. Maybe this is a worry for the scratch prone aftermarket acrylic windshields, but it won't harm an OEM.

This is where the argument for an F4 stands out. You don't have to take as great of care in your method of cleaning. You can treat it like it is glass. That's a big plus. I certainly can't argue with them from that standpoint.
 

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Well I dropped my GL1800 off the jack today and broke the windshield.

Now I need to purchase a new windshield.:cry:

3. Windbender is too expensive although I like the Idea.

So I'm open to suggestions from your experience with different windshields.
I am loving my Windbender HP.

Too expensive? It's $50 cheaper than the F4 you are considering. Maybe you are talking about the electric option, but that is not required, and has no comparison to any other windshield for the GL1800.
 

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I have had:

Honda OEM+2 w/OEM side deflectors; high quality. Hard coated Lexan. durable. good improvement over stock. The added weight of the deflectors tends to make the shield flex too much in high winds. The deflectors are expensive, making the total cost high.

Tulsa Standard; high quality. Acrylic. Good for me. terrible for my wife. returned it.

Cee Baileys: poor quality. Acrylic. The very best windshield I tried by far when it comes to buffeting. Loved the European styling. After returning two defective ones, I gave up.

Windbender. Acrylic. good quality. Good primarily if you prefer to look over the windshield at all times. Passenger buffeting is no better than a stock OEM shield. Decent for the rider. Not cheap compared to many other windshields.

I kept going back to my OEM+2, and have used it for nearly 8 years now.

If F4 would make a windshield the same size and shape as the Cee Baileys, I would buy it in a second.
 
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