Tires were installed by a independent mechanic that used to work at a Honda dealer and I have all confidence he installed front wheel correctly. And I even questioned him on it and he showed me the mark that is to be aligned as per Mother Honda.You answered my question. I doubt the tire made it happen, especially since it is gone now. Probably didn't reinstal the tire to spec. There is a step they often leave out, and I have to agree it sounds goofy, BUT momma Honda felt it important enough to put it in the service manual so it must have merit.
As for the head bearings, good is good enough. Overtightening can cause premature wear, and make the bike handle funny. Some put in roller bearinfgs and swear by them, But I would venture they either fix most of the problem when taking the old out and puting the new in, or just cover up said problem.
So,,, to answer your question, yes you are being fed a line.
Hope they got it fixed,
Tires were installed by a independent mechanic that used to work at a Honda dealer and I have all confidence he installed front wheel correctly. And I even questioned him on it and he showed me the mark that is to be aligned as per Mother Honda.
On old tired wooble was at decel between 40 to 50 miles an hour. On new tires it got worse and is at all speeds during decel.
The dealer is correct on one account. Loose stem bearings will cause wobble on any motorcycle if they are loose. There is not supposed to be any axial play in the bearings at all.Well, wooble is gone for now. It was explained to me that the mechanic had to tighten the pre-load on the stearing head bearings. Supposedly the front end/forks slopped back and forth with no "drag" in steering. You need preload or drag in turning steering from lock to lock. I just wonder how long this cure will last, have 23000 now so I suppose I can expect to spend another $200 in another 2 years.
Still say it should be covered under warranty. Think I will be calling Honda Customer Service tommorow and complain, for all the good it will do.
Havent decided if I'm going to have the All Balls I bought to have dealer put in, installed by a third party at the end of the riding season. Would think tapered bearings would be a better bet at tightening to preload drag on steering.:shrug:
you show me in blask and white where it says the adjusting the stearing head bearings in the maintainance schedule and I'll buy into your theory.The dealer is correct on one account. Loose stem bearings will cause wobble on any motorcycle if they are loose. There is not supposed to be any axial play in the bearings at all.
Based on the wording of your post, I am assuming you are not aware that stem bearing adjustment is a routine maintenance item that the owner should check periodically on ANY motorcycle, not just the Goldwing. I usually have to adjust mine within the first 10K. You do this at your expense, even under warranty. Honda does not cover maintenance under warranty, so you will be wasting your time complaining to them about it.
The loose bearings will solve the problem of wobbling with new tires. But as they wear and start to cup a little bit, the wobble will return.
The post was supposed to say inspect, not adjust. I had actually edited it last night, but it did not save for some reason.you show me in blask and white where it says the adjusting the stearing head bearings in the maintainance schedule and I'll buy into your theory.
I've been riding for 35 years and this is the first bike that I've had this issue with.
You must be a Honda Rep.!!!!
LarryThe post was supposed to say inspect, not adjust. I had actually edited it last night, but it did not save for some reason.
Check the very last item in your maintenance schedule. Stem bearing inspection is supposed to be done every 8,000 miles. It is also listed in the MSF TCLOCS inspection procedures. Obviously you wouldn't do any kind of adjustment unless testing revealed that adjustment was needed.
It is very common here for people to say, "I have never had this problem before. It must be unique to the Wing." I often wonder why people seem to think that if they haven't had the problem, it must not be a problem. There is more out there than just your little world. If you doubt this issue exists with other bikes, you have a computer, use it! You will be busy reading for a week.
Loose stem bearings will be most prevalent on a newer bike with low miles. The bearings quite often will shift slightly from their installed position. And after a few thousand miles of being pounded by the road, they seat, and the bearing adjustment loosens up. Once the initial readjustment is done, they may never have to be adjusted again. Unfortunately, few people ever check it. It is much easier to just whine.
You can downplay the importance of properly adjusted stem bearings all you want. Makes no matter to me. We have a lot of "experts" on this board who love to slam down other people's opinions rather than just discuss them, but yet they seem to be the ones who have the most problems with their bikes. I wonder why that is.
All I know is, I keep mine adjusted, and I don't have the severe wobble problems that so many people on this board have had. I wonder how much money has been wasted by owners having bearings replaced because they didn't know that they might have fixed the problem by simply adjusting the preload on the ones they have.
In response to your last statement, no, I am not a Honda rep, but I have been involved in warranty service my whole career. Even though I have not worked for Honda specifically, I know the way mfr's think when it comes to service, and I know what is written in the Honda warranty booklet. Warranty guidelines are fairly standard throughout the industry. Even though you can sometimes get concessions if you whine enough, adjustments are not covered under warranty. Stem bearing adjustment is a routine maintenance item on motorcycles, and always has been. Regardless of whether that sits well with you or not, that's just the way it is. If the OP can get Honda to pay for it, more power to him.
Honda District Service Rep Wannabe.