[gkarasik]

Gary, do yourself a favor smart guy, and take out your tag and LOOK at it. The illustration is pretty clear. If you're still having trouble, have your wife or grandkids explain it to you. It's not that difficult.

I apologize.

Maybe we're somehow talking about different tags? The tag that comes on the fobs I got show the tag going inside the fob. And it's nowhere written in anything from Honda that the purpose of the tag that comes with the fob is to protect the fob. Can you remember where you read that?

 

[T-88]

Yeah, thanks guys

I covered the numbers and I know what their for, just can't get my head around folding it and putting it in the fob. Doesn't really go into any slot or anything there on the fob and why would you keep the number with the fob. Won't do much good if you lose it.

I've got my original fob code hidden in three places on the bike.

That's good info on the QR code.

Some of you are making the storage of these 2 plastic emergency start code tags too complicated.

I just carry them in my wallet. Lose your fob? No problem.

Tim

 

[murf]

You’re making the storage of these 2 plastic emergency start code tags too complicated.

I just carry them in my wallet. Lose your fob? No problem.

Tim

Save the emergency start codes as a contact on your phone and keep the plastic tags in a safe place at home.

 

[T-88]

Save the emergency start codes as a contact on your phone and keep the plastic tags in a safe place at home.

I wear a belt AND suspenders . . . LOL.

Emergency start codes are: on my phone; plastic tags in my wallet; codes written in the Owner’s Manual and always carried on the bike; stored at home where spouse can find them; and recorded at my dealership kept by my salesperson who has sole access to his customers’ codes.

Tim

 

[murf]

I wear a belt AND suspenders . . . LOL.

Emergency start codes are: on my phone; plastic tags in my wallet; codes written in the Owner’s Manual and always carried on the bike; stored at home where spouse can find them; and recorded at my dealership kept by my salesperson who has sole access to his customers’ codes.

Tim

 

[Knifeman]

We might want to be talking about another big issue here. Most of us carry our "hard" key inside our key fob. BAD IDEA... even though that's the way Honda designed it. You misplace that FOB out on the road, yer stuck, pal. Guess how bonehead here knows this? It would behoove all of us to get a hard key mounted (secretly) somewhere on the bike.

 

[T-88]

We might want to be talking about another big issue here. Most of us carry our "hard" key inside our key fob. BAD IDEA... even though that's the way Honda designed it. You misplace that FOB out on the road, yer stuck, pal. Guess how bonehead here knows this? It would behoove all of us to get a hard key mounted (secretly) somewhere on the bike.

Yeahbut we all carry 2 fobs on our person whenever we ride, don’t we?? 😀

Tim

 

[gkarasik]

Yeahbut we all carry 2 fobs on our person whenever we ride, don’t we?? 😀

Tim

I don't remember.

 

[Roadie]

We might want to be talking about another big issue here. Most of us carry our "hard" key inside our key fob. BAD IDEA... even though that's the way Honda designed it. You misplace that FOB out on the road, yer stuck, pal. Guess how bonehead here knows this? It would behoove all of us to get a hard key mounted (secretly) somewhere on the bike.

That's why you hide the other spare key somewhere on your bike so you always have a key with you...the drivers backrest has a zipper and a key hides nicely in the back of the drivers backrest...keep the codes in your phone contacts in your phone.

 

[gkarasik]

That's why you hide the other spare key somewhere on your bike so you always have a key with you...the drivers backrest has a zipper and a key hides nicely in the back of the drivers backrest...keep the codes in your phone contacts in your phone.

Brilliant.

 

[mrmagloo]

That's why you hide the other spare key somewhere on your bike so you always have a key with you...the drivers backrest has a zipper and a key hides nicely in the back of the drivers backrest...keep the codes in your phone contacts in your phone.

Hmm, my OEM backrest on the 2022 must be different? I don't see a zipper, but I could perhaps tape it to the support under the rubber cover. Great idea.

 

[Farmguy]

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What does this tag mean?

Do not throw away that tag.

The number (partially hidden in the photo) is your emergency start code. Store it in your phone etc.

Little known fact - you can scan that QR code (adjacent to the number) using your phone. It will produce the emergency start code which you can copy to the clip board then paste into a note or contact.

Of course if you have you phone out to take a shot of the QR code, you could just as easy save the photo, since it also has the number on it.


I do like the idea of keeping the number in 'contacts' and/or as a 'note' or 'to-do' entry on the phone.
I'd also keep a copy of the info (and maybe the tags) in the same place as the bill of sale for the bike.

There should also be small metal tags (not pictured, unless I missed it)
The small metal tags are the lock numbers.
Needed if key is lost and wanting to have another one cut.

 

[billsredgoldwing]

Here is how to program in a second key FOB. The cost of another FOB is about $90.

Honda calls out a special tool, PN 070PZ-ZY30100 This is essentially a shorting connector, just like what is used for the TPMS sensor programing connector on the older bikes. However, there is a catch. The connector it plugs into (connector is next to the battery) has 4 wires (not just 2) so I don't know yet which wires it shorts.

The procedure goes as follows (I'm paraphrasing).

1. Turn off all FOB's except the one that is already programed to the bike.
2. Open left saddlebag
3. Turn Ignition ON
4. Connect shorting connector within 15 seconds of turning ignition on.
5. Turn the registered FOB for the bike OFF
6. Turn the new FOB you want to add ON - Wait 15 seconds
If you have more FOBs to register (limit 4 total) -press left saddlebag button and repeat step 6
7. Remove shorting connector
8. Turn ignition off

A year ago I bought a 2nd fob and programmed it to my bike. Tested it and everything worked fine. Turned it off and kept it available as a spare. This week I began getting the low battery indicator on the bike while still using the original fob. No problem, I thought, I'll switch to my spare. Turned off the original, turned on the spare. But the bike doesn't acknowledge the spare! Interestingly, if you try to turn the ignition switch on, the spare fob blinks once. But the bike won't turn on. Tried replacing the battery in the spare, same result. So I put a fresh battery in my original and it works fine. Any ideas what's going on with my spare?

 

[gkarasik]

A year ago I bought a 2nd fob and programmed it to my bike. Tested it and everything worked fine. Turned it off and kept it available as a spare. This week I began getting the low battery indicator on the bike while still using the original fob. No problem, I thought, I'll switch to my spare. Turned off the original, turned on the spare. But the bike doesn't acknowledge the spare! Interestingly, if you try to turn the ignition switch on, the spare fob blinks once. But the bike won't turn on. Tried replacing the battery in the spare, same result. So I put a fresh battery in my original and it works fine. Any ideas what's going on with my spare?

Happened to me too. I have two spares. Both were programmed. A year later, one worked, one didn't. No idea yet what's going on.

 

[INTHEWIND]

Happened to me too. I have two spares. Both were programmed. A year later, one worked, one didn't. No idea yet what's going on.

Reprogram it.

 

[gkarasik]

Reprogram it.

I did reprogram it, but I don't have a lot of confidence in it, and I don't know whether reprogramming it took up an additional registration slot of the 4 I'm allowed. (This last is more curiosity than necessity; I don't anticipate needing more.)

 

[Davagail]

Did you happen to reprogram your tpms? I did and my spare fob had to be reprogrammed....

 

[gkarasik]

Did you happen to reprogram your tpms? I did and my spare fob had to be reprogrammed....

I didn't, but that's interesting.

 

[INTHEWIND]

I didn't, but that's interesting.

I remember a post that a OP was having the same issue that you are having, went into great detail on the registration slots, he reprogramed the fob and the slots weren't affected.
Here it is:

Is your Spare FOB still working?

When is the last time you tried to use your Spare FOB? Is it still working? My 2018 only came with one FOB, so I had to buy a second, which I programmed to the bike and then tucked away (with the FOBs battery removed). Today I tested it, and even with a new battery, it won't work. It hasn't...

www.gl1800riders.com

Is your Spare FOB still working?

When is the last time you tried to use your Spare FOB? Is it still working? My 2018 only came with one FOB, so I had to buy a second, which I programmed to the bike and then tucked away (with the FOBs battery removed). Today I tested it, and even with a new battery, it won't work. It hasn't...

www.gl1800riders.com

FOB fail update

I, and a few others, have had FOBs that failed to operate. So far as I know, my report of this was the first on this forum and was quite a long time ago as 2018+ models go. When this happened the first time, I put that spare FOB away without the battery, bought and initialized a new FOB. Fred...

www.gl1800riders.com

FOB fail update

I, and a few others, have had FOBs that failed to operate. So far as I know, my report of this was the first on this forum and was quite a long time ago as 2018+ models go. When this happened the first time, I put that spare FOB away without the battery, bought and initialized a new FOB. Fred...

www.gl1800riders.com

As per Fred:
Another thing to keep in mind, is that if a FOB is unused for something like 30 days, the bike will no longer respond to it until you push one of the lock/unlock buttons on the FOB. This is by design. So if you have a FOB that isn't working, first try using the lock buttons on it and see if that wakes it up.

 

[gkarasik]

I remember a post that a OP was having the same issue that you are having, went into great detail on the registration slots, he reprogramed the fob and the slots weren't affected.
Here it is:

Is your Spare FOB still working?

When is the last time you tried to use your Spare FOB? Is it still working? My 2018 only came with one FOB, so I had to buy a second, which I programmed to the bike and then tucked away (with the FOBs battery removed). Today I tested it, and even with a new battery, it won't work. It hasn't...

www.gl1800riders.com

Is your Spare FOB still working?

When is the last time you tried to use your Spare FOB? Is it still working? My 2018 only came with one FOB, so I had to buy a second, which I programmed to the bike and then tucked away (with the FOBs battery removed). Today I tested it, and even with a new battery, it won't work. It hasn't...

www.gl1800riders.com

FOB fail update

I, and a few others, have had FOBs that failed to operate. So far as I know, my report of this was the first on this forum and was quite a long time ago as 2018+ models go. When this happened the first time, I put that spare FOB away without the battery, bought and initialized a new FOB. Fred...

www.gl1800riders.com

FOB fail update

I, and a few others, have had FOBs that failed to operate. So far as I know, my report of this was the first on this forum and was quite a long time ago as 2018+ models go. When this happened the first time, I put that spare FOB away without the battery, bought and initialized a new FOB. Fred...

www.gl1800riders.com

As per Fred:
Another thing to keep in mind, is that if a FOB is unused for something like 30 days, the bike will no longer respond to it until you push one of the lock/unlock buttons on the FOB. This is by design. So if you have a FOB that isn't working, first try using the lock buttons on it and see if that wakes it up.

I too followed those threads with interest. What I don't know (and I don't find the answer in those threads) is this: When I reregister a fob, does that registration burn it's number into the ECU anew (i.e., does it take up another one of the four available registration slots) or does it simply reconnect with the registration number burned in the first time that fob was registered? I have registered three fobs. If the fob I just reregistered simply reconnected to its number originally registerd in the ECU, then I still have a fourth slot remaining; otherwise I've used up all four possible slots. The only way I could find out, short of having some kind of reader, would be to buy and try to register a fourth fob (something I won't be doing because this is more curiousity than need).