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Discussion starter · #21 ·
Wasn't it you that told us about the low COG of the NC700X, compared to the Versys? I couldn't remember who stated that.
But if INTHEWIND couldn't get a ride on the NC because of one not being available, I understand his going ahead with the Versys purchase. He was READY for a change and didn't want to wait any longer.

About the US Honda dealers having a negative view of the NC700X: I keep hearing about the "sluggish" view of the NC. Is that primarily because the bike isn't a "go fast" type bike like the 600RR types? Speed seems to me to be a U.S. type attitude vs what the Europeans want when it comes to ADVs. Dealer negativity can kill a model however. Just look at what happened with the Harley V-ROD. Not to mention the Buell.
In this quest for a new bike, specifically the NC750X DCT, the videos and writeups I've seen and read do state that the engine in those bikes is not a rocket ship. But, EVERYONE states that it's PLENTY of power for general riding, general acceleration etc. Passing is a tad sluggish but doable. As just about all who've reviewed this bike have stated, you CANNOT have superior gas mileage AND top notch performance at the same time, not gonna happen.

These NC 750's are hovering around 65-75 mpg, based on riding technique and application. THAT'S what I'm looking for, not Hyabusa runs from stop light to stop light. If one wants rocket ship performance, than from what I can see and read, DO NOT buy the NC750X. If one (such as myself) want's a well rounded, low COG bike, decent performance, ultra ease of the DCT, VERY GOOD built in storage, and a few other attributes, then the NC750X might be for you. I really won't know 'till I take my first test ride on Friday. But I suspect I'm gonna like it.

If any dealerships have or present any form of negativaty towards the NC750X, that's up to them, it's a free world and free speech. But, with that being said, they (the dealerships) can have all the negativity they want but the bikes are still being manufactured, shipped to them, and sold. Can't be too much negative it that's what's happening.
Scott
Scott
 
In this quest for a new bike, specifically the NC750X DCT, the videos and writeups I've seen and read do state that the engine in those bikes is not a rocket ship. But, EVERYONE states that it's PLENTY of power for general riding, general acceleration etc. Passing is a tad sluggish but doable. As just about all who've reviewed this bike have stated, you CANNOT have superior gas mileage AND top notch performance at the same time, not gonna happen.

These NC 750's are hovering around 65-75 mpg, based on riding technique and application. THAT'S what I'm looking for, not Hyabusa runs from stop light to stop light. If one wants rocket ship performance, than from what I can see and read, DO NOT buy the NC750X. If one (such as myself) want's a well rounded, low COG bike, decent performance, ultra ease of the DCT, VERY GOOD built in storage, and a few other attributes, then the NC750X might be for you. I really won't know 'till I take my first test ride on Friday. But I suspect I'm gonna like it.

If any dealerships have or present any form of negativaty towards the NC750X, that's up to them, it's a free world and free speech. But, with that being said, they (the dealerships) can have all the negativity they want but the bikes are still being manufactured, shipped to them, and sold. Can't be too much negative it that's what's happening.
Scott
Scott
If you have any more specific questions PM me. I've had three NC700Xs and logged about 85,000 miles on them all together. One manual and two DCTs.
 
Wasn't it you that told us about the low COG of the NC700X, compared to the Versys? I couldn't remember who stated that.
But if INTHEWIND couldn't get a ride on the NC because of one not being available, I understand his going ahead with the Versys purchase. He was READY for a change and didn't want to wait any longer.

About the US Honda dealers having a negative view of the NC700X: I keep hearing about the "sluggish" view of the NC. Is that primarily because the bike isn't a "go fast" type bike like the 600RR types? Speed seems to me to be a U.S. type attitude vs what the Europeans want when it comes to ADVs. Dealer negativity can kill a model however. Just look at what happened with the Harley V-ROD. Not to mention the Buell.
Yes, I did mention the low Center of Gravity in a prior thread. The engine isn't flat and parallel to the ground like the Wing is but the cylinders are canted only 38 degrees up from horizontal. The fuel, what little there is at 3.7 gallons, is carried under the seat. Like the Wing the low COG helps the bike feel lighter that it's 500 lbs suggests.

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If any dealerships have or present any form of negativaty towards the NC750X, that's up to them, it's a free world and free speech. But, with that being said, they (the dealerships) can have all the negativity they want but the bikes are still being manufactured, shipped to them, and sold. Can't be too much negative it that's what's happening.
Scott
The NC has been in production 12 years and sold 11 years in the US. For several years after 2011 it was one of Honda's top three selling bikes globally and still sells well in Europe and Asia where motorcycles are viewed as viable daily transportation. In the USA motorcycles are used mostly as recreational toys. Practical bikes don't appeal that much to US buyers but put some saddlebags, a touring windshield and maybe a seat and the NC travels well and very economically.I know a guy that has taken his NC700X to Alaska, the transCanada highway and the Canadian maritimes. Mine's been to 8 states and trip of up to 3500 miles.

I put a deposit on one when Honda US announced they were importing the bike by the summer of 2012 and waited three months to get it but it's always been a slow selling model in the US. Honestly each October I'm surprised it makes Honda's model line up for another year. In the early years the bike just didn't sell well and lots of dealers had brand new 2 and 3 year old models sitting in a dusty corner. After that a lot of dealers just didn't order them. The engine's diesel-like high torque/low horsepower character with it's low redline and abrupt rev limiter put off a lot of test riders and/or motorcycle magazine journalists so the narrative was set. 6 to 12 years ago DCT was a very hard sell to traditional MC buyers so it got tagged with a rep as a big scooter or beginner's bike. A bike for someone that can't ride a motorcycle, etc.. Sales people are traditional MC riders after all and unless someone came in looking for one odds were the sales people didn't show the bike. I really like this bike though and knew exactly what I was looking for and what I was getting. As I said before, I believe there are two large subsets of NC700/750 owners - novice motorcycle riders that may not be familiar with manual transmissions or scooter riders moving up to full size motorcycles and then there are the experienced seasoned riders not impressed with boy racer performance and uncomfortable ergonomics that may have owned lots of motorcycles over time and are looking for a practical bike that is easy to live with.
 
Discussion starter · #26 ·
Dave,
I surely thank you for that information and writeup. Very much appreciated. I don't follow motorcycle production and or global procurement of such. But I do know that Europe and many other countries do regard motorcycles as some serious basic transportation. I think there's a whole ton of motorcycles/scooters that never make it to the states but sell by the gazillions in those countries. With all that being said, and based on your statements above, I'm kind of surprised that the NC lineup is actually still with us. There's 2023's out there for sure. The last part of the last sentense in your writing DEFINITELY applies to me! ".....and then there's the EXPERIENCED seasonal riders NOT IMPRESSED WITH THE BOY RACER PERFORMANCE and uncomfortable ergonomics...." Very true indeed! I will be test riding a 2020 NC750X DCT this Friday!
Scott
 
Dave,
I surely thank you for that information and writeup. Very much appreciated. I don't follow motorcycle production and or global procurement of such. But I do know that Europe and many other countries do regard motorcycles as some serious basic transportation. I think there's a whole ton of motorcycles/scooters that never make it to the states but sell by the gazillions in those countries. With all that being said, and based on your statements above, I'm kind of surprised that the NC lineup is actually still with us. There's 2023's out there for sure. The last part of the last sentense in your writing DEFINITELY applies to me! ".....and then there's the EXPERIENCED seasonal riders NOT IMPRESSED WITH THE BOY RACER PERFORMANCE and uncomfortable ergonomics...." Very true indeed! I will be test riding a 2020 NC750X DCT this Friday!
Scott
Please provide a review of your test ride!
 
Discussion starter · #30 ·
I'm especially interested in what you have to say about the seat.
Roger that six2go,
I will definitely report on that. However, I'm typically not overly critical of factory seats, on just about any bike. I know and realize that the factory(ies) of most motorcycles simply cannot produce a seat that will automatically satisfy all potential riders. I've owned 6 Wings to date and have never changed a factory seat. And, each and everyone of them all feel like I'm riding on a brick after about a hundred miles or so. I really don't mind that because, lots of other parts of this old body get tired along with the butt after that kind of distance. It's part of my existance. I just stop someplace and go walk around or grab a lunch or something like that. Then, after a brief break, I hop back on and I'm good for maybe another hundred or so, possibly less.
Scott
 
Asheboro Cycle Center has one for under 10K
 
Discussion starter · #34 ·
I fully understand Scott. I'm 78 and don't do the long days either but I like to be comfortable while I am in the saddle.
Alright six2go,
Here ya go. I got a chance for about 60 miles on the new to me NC750X DCT today. The weather was GREAT and the roads, well, as good as they are for southern CA. Traffic was fairly light for a weekend day and great weather and, the area I was playing in. I got some 45, 55 and 65 mph time in and for several miles at each. I'd say I was in the saddle at the longest, about 20 minutes, maybe 30. I'd stop, look around at the surroundings and maybe take a picture of something.

At present, I don't really have a lot to complain about in terms of the seat. That does not mean it's a perfect seat, not by any stretch. Each persons butt is different and will have limits on just how long one can sit in the saddle before a given seat will start to cause issues. One rider may only do 50 miles and start to get tired of a seat. While another rider may get double or triple that mileage on the same seat before they complain. Including the two test rides, and the run around zoomies today, I've only put actually around 100 to 125 miles on it.

I'm getting used to it and things are smoothing out. I do have an issue though. I'm hearing what I might describe as a "Whirring" type sound as I gain speed from a starting stop. It's pretty noticeable as you approach 25-35 and above. I have done some preliminary tests and can't seem to narrow it down. I've put it on the center stand and spun the front tire as fast as possible which isn't fast and the only noise I get doing that is the noise from the brake pads in contact with the rotor as they have residual pressure. I need to pry the pads away slightly to create total clearance and then spin the wheel to see maybe, if I can detect any wheel bearing noise.

The second potential is of course the tire. The bike only has 2,200 miles on it so, obviously there's very little wear on those tires. There may be, I say MAY be some ultra slight cupping but, if it's there, it's really slight. Can a tire cause this noise, even when it's somewhat new? Anyway, so far, this is my primary issue.
Scott
 
Yes, a tire that has cupped (or is starting to cup) can cause discernible noise, and a slight whirring sound that gets louder as speed increases, strongly suggests that the tire may be the cause of the noise.

(Edit: the conventional wisdom to “fix” any tire cupping (especially one that’s just starting to cup) is to increase front tire pressure 2-3 psi above factory recommendations. It’s a cheap and easy first step to try before moving on to other popular aftermarket solutions for which there are numerous advocates.)

Tim
 
I put a Russell Day Long on my NC700 DCT and it was a huge improvement over the stock seat, which was like sitting on a 2x6. I did a long Iron Butt ride on the stock seat and literally had blisters. After installing the Day Long and doing a similar ride it was a night and day difference. I haven't ridden a 750 so can't comment, but my 700 does "ok" on interstates but there isn't much left at 75 mph or so if loaded up. The fuel mileage has been great and it is a relatively inexpensive motorcycle to maintain. The DCT has been flawless as has the rest of the motorcycle.
 
I have a 2015 nc700DCT. It is a mild, comfortable bike, easy to ride. It has ok acceleration to 50 mph. Passing is slow. I have made plenty of mods. It is acceptable to my wife as a passenger.
I have considered selling the wing and keeping the NC as my only bike. I am also considering the Africa Twin as my only bike. Honda makes a light tourer with the Africa Twin engine, the NT110. So far only sold in Europe, perhaps it will be here in 2024.
 
I have a 2015 nc700DCT. It is a mild, comfortable bike, easy to ride. It has ok acceleration to 50 mph. Passing is slow. I have made plenty of mods. It is acceptable to my wife as a passenger.
I have considered selling the wing and keeping the NC as my only bike. I am also considering the Africa Twin as my only bike. Honda makes a light tourer with the Africa Twin engine, the NT110. So far only sold in Europe, perhaps it will be here in 2024.
My mods
 
I've had my 2018 manual NC750X for a couple of years and put about 27k miles on it. I'm about 170lb with riding gear. I regularly get 70+ mpg even riding aggressively. I also carry a lot of stuff in my Givi saddlebags and the "frunk". Once you know where the Powerband is passing is no problem at all. It zips right along. There's plenty of juice if you know where it is. I regularly do 350 mile days of mixed highway and backroads. With Avon trail rider tires it actually does a great job on gravel roads too. I've seen videos of people riding them with TKC80s on single track but I'm way past that age wise. Downsides? Seat isn't very comfy after 150 or so. Suspension was built to a price point so could be better. Other than that it's a great bike IMO.
 
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