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"In my opinion, a DCT is not really a motorcycle."

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1.8K views 64 replies 48 participants last post by  monkey paw  
#1 ·
That was the first reaction I got from another rider when I pulled into Two Wheels of Suches last week . . . and he was a Gold Wing owner! Everyone is entitled to their opinion so I just let it go, but just for kicks, I should have told him I also drive a Tesla, LOL!
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#4 ·
Someday I just gotta test ride one..BUT I'm not ready to trade in my 2010 TRIKE, as of yet............I just got back from a 1000(ish) miles ride, touring through New Hampshire, riding around Lake Winnipesaukee, riding the entire Kancamagus highway, "both" directions, and all different routes..[ with a group of different bikes..]. (This was an excellent planned route, that was all made possible, from the folks that started the Americade Motorcycle Rally.(lake George NY).. A great time was had, even though much of it was ridden in pouring rain...... My bike ran perfect, even, with 80,xxx miles on the odometer..

Ronnie
9/29/25
 
#54 ·
After test riding a DCT, it seemed pretty motorcycle-ly to me, just not my preference.

I still like driving a manual car, but there aren't many to choose from.
Or many people that can drive one. I learned when I was 14 working in a used car lot. That was over 62 years ago.
 
#6 ·
Like DJK62 said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion...but personally, since buying my DCT, I've said many times, I don't miss shifting gears at all....I've really noticed how much MORE I enjoy riding this bike over my previous Goldwings and I think the DCT is a big part of that...anyways, that's my 2 cents...ride safe....

Scott
 
#7 ·
I rode my Harley Limited from home (Central Florida) to Chattanooga last week, and traded it in for a new GW Tour DCT. After riding my new 2025 on I-75 through Atlanta during the stop and go rush hour on my way back home to Florida, I was glad I didn’t have to work a clutch lever. After just doing the same a day before on the Harley, the contrast was striking!
DCT for me!
 
#11 ·
Who cares what someone else says or thinks?
I spend my hard earned money on what I like and enjoy.........

Most would think my CSC Trike is not a motorcycle either, which it probably isn't.........But, I really don't care.
My wife and enjoy the heck out of it and ride more now than we ever have........that IS what it's all about IMHO.

It's just a label anyways........call it what you want but as long as you enjoy it what's it matter?
Some people don't have enough to do IMHO and just try to stir the pot for their sick enjoyment..... 🤭 🤭
 
#17 ·
Opinions are like A holes, everyone has them. I was very apprehensive about the new DCT when I bought my new wing this year. Now after 1600 miles on it I can say it's an awesome machine.. Accepting new technology is hard after fifty plus years of riding. But once you try it, it becomes second nature. Go ride one then cast your opinion.
 
#18 ·
For me, it's not about whether I like or dislike shifting, it's way more about performance. The computer shifts quicker and smoother than I can most of the time. It's always in 1st gear when I stop and never misses a shift. Clutches and transmissions experience less wear and last longer if humans are eliminated from their control.
Same trend is happening with heavy trucks, latest autoshift transmissions provide better performance, lower fuel consumption, fewer repairs, less driver fatigue, less driver skill, etc.
 
#25 ·
For me, it's not about whether I like or dislike shifting, it's way more about performance. The computer shifts quicker and smoother than I can most of the time. It's always in 1st gear when I stop and never misses a shift. Clutches and transmissions experience less wear and last longer if humans are eliminated from their control.
Same trend is happening with heavy trucks, latest autoshift transmissions provide better performance, lower fuel consumption, fewer repairs, less driver fatigue, less driver skill, etc.
;)
 
#19 ·
So the rider who made that comment was riding a single cylinder, 2-stroke requiring pre-mix fuel, kick start, magneto electric system, with a tickle-to-overflow carbueretor, and drum brakes? In other words, a “real” motorcycle?

While not every motorcycle is for everyone, such comments as stated, demonstrate rigid thinking and narrow mindedness. Imagine the “basic” technologies we have on motorcycles and now take for granted (without triggering the “too much technology” debate): fuel injection, disc brakes, and ABS braking.

Tim
 
#21 ·
I was a bit uncertain when I took a DCT for a test ride, but by the time I got back I was sold.
I shake my head to the neanderthals that condemn a DCT and say it isn't the full experience unless you shift gears. Well, put in it manual then and shift all you want. But, of course they say it still isn't the same, you need to shift with your foot. I ask them about some of the high end sports cars with paddle shifters. I suppose they are not "real" cars? I usually ask them if they have put any time riding a DCT to make an informed opinion, and of course, they haven't.
 
#23 ·
I was a bit uncertain when I took a DCT for a test ride, but by the time I got back I was sold.
I shake my head to the neanderthals that condemn a DCT and say it isn't the full experience unless you shift gears. Well, put in it manual then and shift all you want. But, of course they say it still isn't the same, you need to shift with your foot. I ask them about some of the high end sports cars with paddle shifters. I suppose they are not "real" cars? I usually ask them if they have put any time riding a DCT to make an informed opinion, and of course, they haven't.
There are certainly people in the car enthusiast community who decry non-manual transmissions, especially among Porsche owners. Interesting, tidbit, I have a friend who is a national champion Porsche (manual trans) race car driver. He says he will only drive his PDK (automatic transmission) car as a daily driver.

The DCT vs manual transmission “debate” can be boiled down to personal preference, and the paricular riding experience one transmission gives over the other. Whichever transmission gives one the greatest riding pleasure is the best choice for that person. It’s odd how one’s choice can be a divisive topic.

Tim
 
#29 ·
When I was in the market for a new Gold Wing I thought to myself, there is no way I'm getting a DCT. I thought no self respecting motorcycle rider would be riding an automatic. After doing some research I warmed up to the idea and then I test drove the 2020 DCT. It's sitting in my garage today after just getting a bath. I'm going to ChampStreet class tomorrow so we will see if I catch crap for having an "automatic" from the other students or instructors. There are downshift drills that focus on rev matching. Not sure if I'll be able to do that with the DCT.
 
#30 · (Edited)
I remember yakking with all the guys on another forum about my bike. Their opinions were polar opposite of mine. They loved this bike, but I didn't. My back didn't like the riding position no matter what accessories I put on the bike to try to change that. My butt didn't like the seat. My foot didn't like shifting 5 times every time I came to another stop light. It was top heavy and had no reverse. It was miserable hot in the summer. No amount of THEIR opinions could change that. I didn't know it at the time, but I had a desperate hunger for a DCT Gold Wing, but I was trying to feed it with an FJR. Thankfully, one trip to my Honda dealer in May of 2020 fixed the problem for good.
 
#36 ·
I was riding with a buddy and his Harley Davidson Limited. We stopped on quite and incline at an intersection and he killed it twice. I hollered, "this is how you do it and just rolled on the throttle! I got the one finger salute from him!

That is one thing I really like about the DCT, taking off from a start on an incline. no clutch, just gas it and go.

We were on a vacation and ended up on some really crazy back roads, way off camber corners, simply ridiculous low speed hair pin turns. One turn I stopped at because I was thinking, "You can't be serious!" On a motorcycle with a manual transmission I might have given up and turned around, it was that bad. I would bet it was well above a 20% grade. I remember hollering to my wife to hang on and I hit the gas!
 
#37 ·
I traded a DCT Africa Twin for a new 22 DCT Wing. The AT trans mapping was perfect: no clunks, seamless, smooth, always in the right gear. The Wing is a bit less so, but I don't miss shifting, any more than I miss shifting a manual in my daily driver car. Even Jeremy Clarkson came around to "flappy-paddle gearboxes", once they got them right.