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I was a bit uncertain when I took a DCT for a test ride, but by the time I got back I was sold.
I shake my head to the neanderthals that condemn a DCT and say it isn't the full experience unless you shift gears. Well, put in it manual then and shift all you want. But, of course they say it still isn't the same, you need to shift with your foot. I ask them about some of the high end sports cars with paddle shifters. I suppose they are not "real" cars? I usually ask them if they have put any time riding a DCT to make an informed opinion, and of course, they haven't.
 
That was the first reaction I got from another rider when I pulled into Two Wheels of Suches last week . . . and he was a Gold Wing owner! Everyone is entitled to their opinion so I just let it go, but just for kicks, I should have told him I also drive a Tesla, LOL! View attachment 497683
In my opinion, anyone who makes statements like that is not a motorcyclist.

Fixed it.
 
I was a bit uncertain when I took a DCT for a test ride, but by the time I got back I was sold.
I shake my head to the neanderthals that condemn a DCT and say it isn't the full experience unless you shift gears. Well, put in it manual then and shift all you want. But, of course they say it still isn't the same, you need to shift with your foot. I ask them about some of the high end sports cars with paddle shifters. I suppose they are not "real" cars? I usually ask them if they have put any time riding a DCT to make an informed opinion, and of course, they haven't.
There are certainly people in the car enthusiast community who decry non-manual transmissions, especially among Porsche owners. Interesting, tidbit, I have a friend who is a national champion Porsche (manual trans) race car driver. He says he will only drive his PDK (automatic transmission) car as a daily driver.

The DCT vs manual transmission “debate” can be boiled down to personal preference, and the paricular riding experience one transmission gives over the other. Whichever transmission gives one the greatest riding pleasure is the best choice for that person. It’s odd how one’s choice can be a divisive topic.

Tim
 
For me, it's not about whether I like or dislike shifting, it's way more about performance. The computer shifts quicker and smoother than I can most of the time. It's always in 1st gear when I stop and never misses a shift. Clutches and transmissions experience less wear and last longer if humans are eliminated from their control.
Same trend is happening with heavy trucks, latest autoshift transmissions provide better performance, lower fuel consumption, fewer repairs, less driver fatigue, less driver skill, etc.
;)
 
Clutches and transmissions experience less wear and last longer if humans are eliminated from their control
Not entirely accurate, but you cleaned it up in the last part of your comment. It does depend upon driver's skill to operate it correctly. In the hands of a skilled operator, manual transmission are considered the most reliable option. And the lowest cost to repair when it fails. To each their own, ride what makes you happy.
 
When I was in the market for a new Gold Wing I thought to myself, there is no way I'm getting a DCT. I thought no self respecting motorcycle rider would be riding an automatic. After doing some research I warmed up to the idea and then I test drove the 2020 DCT. It's sitting in my garage today after just getting a bath. I'm going to ChampStreet class tomorrow so we will see if I catch crap for having an "automatic" from the other students or instructors. There are downshift drills that focus on rev matching. Not sure if I'll be able to do that with the DCT.
 
I remember yakking with all the guys on another forum about my bike. Their opinions were polar opposite of mine. They loved this bike, but I didn't. My back didn't like the riding position no matter what accessories I put on the bike to try to change that. My butt didn't like the seat. My foot didn't like shifting 5 times every time I came to another stop light. It was top heavy and had no reverse. It was miserable hot in the summer. No amount of THEIR opinions could change that. I didn't know it at the time, but I had a desperate hunger for a DCT Gold Wing, but I was trying to feed it with an FJR. Thankfully, one trip to my Honda dealer in May of 2020 fixed the problem for good.
 
That was the first reaction I got from another rider when I pulled into Two Wheels of Suches last week . . . and he was a Gold Wing owner! Everyone is entitled to their opinion so I just let it go, but just for kicks, I should have told him I also drive a Tesla, LOL! View attachment 497683
I've heard people say that until they ride one.
Love mine.
Put a back rest on yours and they would be twins.
 
Like DJK62 said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion...but personally, since buying my DCT, I've said many times, I don't miss shifting gears at all....I've really noticed how much MORE I enjoy riding this bike over my previous Goldwings and I think the DCT is a big part of that...anyways, that's my 2 cents...ride safe....

Scott
Agree 100%.
 
I was riding with a buddy and his Harley Davidson Limited. We stopped on quite and incline at an intersection and he killed it twice. I hollered, "this is how you do it and just rolled on the throttle! I got the one finger salute from him!

That is one thing I really like about the DCT, taking off from a start on an incline. no clutch, just gas it and go.

We were on a vacation and ended up on some really crazy back roads, way off camber corners, simply ridiculous low speed hair pin turns. One turn I stopped at because I was thinking, "You can't be serious!" On a motorcycle with a manual transmission I might have given up and turned around, it was that bad. I would bet it was well above a 20% grade. I remember hollering to my wife to hang on and I hit the gas!
 
I traded a DCT Africa Twin for a new 22 DCT Wing. The AT trans mapping was perfect: no clunks, seamless, smooth, always in the right gear. The Wing is a bit less so, but I don't miss shifting, any more than I miss shifting a manual in my daily driver car. Even Jeremy Clarkson came around to "flappy-paddle gearboxes", once they got them right.
 
I remember one fella, actually one of our finest members on this forum (and likely a better rider than I) whose Gold Wing ended up on its side with some nasty damage. He was trying to ascend a REALLY steep/slow speed mountain road that accessed a campground. Guessing he mis-managed the clutch and stalled. I didn't hear the details of his story. I climbed the same hill towing 350 lbs of trailer and camping gear: I was thinking: THANK YOU DCT. Had there been a manual trannie on my Honda, it likely would have been me: that access road was SCARY.
 
I consider my 2018 DCT Tour a motorcycle. The fact that it's a DCT serves to extend my riding days by years. My hands are suffering from Dear Old Arthur these days (since before 2018), and not having to work a clutch lever has been a godsend for me. I'm glad I live in America where we can express our opinions no matter how uninformed they may be. Go Browns!! Roll Tide!!
 
That was the first reaction I got from another rider when I pulled into Two Wheels of Suches last week . . . and he was a Gold Wing owner! Everyone is entitled to their opinion so I just let it go, but just for kicks, I should have told him I also drive a Tesla, LOL! View attachment 497683
Next it will be It's not chain driven.
 
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